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  1. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    Poor Filipov :,(
    01 Aug '10 21:15
    I wonder if Hamas broke any ceasefire agreements by allowing/executing this.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100801/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_israel_palestinians

    JERUSALEM – Israel's prime minister issued a stern warning Sunday to Gaza's Hamas rulers after a weekend of rocket attacks from the Palestinian territory on Israeli communities.
  2. 02 Aug '10 03:48
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    I wonder if Hamas broke any ceasefire agreements by allowing/executing this.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100801/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_israel_palestinians

    JERUSALEM – Israel's prime minister issued a stern warning Sunday to Gaza's Hamas rulers after a weekend of rocket attacks from the Palestinian territory on Israeli communities.
    Why should Israel be concerned about rocket attacks against them?
  3. 02 Aug '10 05:45
    Originally posted by whodey
    Why should Israel be concerned about rocket attacks against them?
    I don't follow Middle Easten history, but I believe these things have been going on for some 40-odd generations, right? Not exactly news.
  4. 02 Aug '10 13:57
    Originally posted by whodey
    Why should Israel be concerned about rocket attacks against them?
    Exactly whodey. Doesn't Israel understand that the rest of the world believes that Israel simply needs to take it. After all, they deserve it. They shouldn't be there at all and if they want to be there, they are the rightful object of anything the Muslims do to them.

    How pathetic that the Jews want their own country. They should just be a people without a country.
  5. 02 Aug '10 14:03
    Originally posted by Eladar
    Exactly whodey. Doesn't Israel understand that the rest of the world believes that Israel simply needs to take it. After all, they deserve it. They shouldn't be there at all and if they want to be there, they are the rightful object of anything the Muslims do to them.

    How pathetic that the Jews want their own country. They should just be a people without a country.
    Do christians have their own country? (well, apart from the Vatican...)
  6. 02 Aug '10 14:16
    Jews are not simply a religion, they are a dispersed people. They once had a country that was destroyed by Rome. Perhaps I should have said 'Hebrews' instead of Jews. I'm not sure about the pedantics here.
  7. 02 Aug '10 14:46
    The bible talks nonsense, jews have never lived in a country called israel until 1948, when they took over a nation of people brutally. the story of moses is actually an egyptian story based on king akhenaton from egypt= israelites and moses, complete myth.
  8. 02 Aug '10 14:48
    Originally posted by Eladar
    Exactly whodey. Doesn't Israel understand that the rest of the world believes that Israel simply needs to take it. After all, they deserve it. They shouldn't be there at all and if they want to be there, they are the rightful object of anything the Muslims do to them.

    How pathetic that the Jews want their own country. They should just be a people without a country.
    They should take it because they deserve it. After all, they are the "bad guys". In fact, those poor Palastinians just trying to scrap buy to afford rockets to bombard the Israelis is just a crying shame. Won't you you donate a buck or two to their cause? Its all tax deductable of course.
  9. 02 Aug '10 14:50
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    Do christians have their own country? (well, apart from the Vatican...)
    It used to be the US until we were displaced by the secularists. In fact, since we are all now displaced and have our country taken from us perhaps we should lob rockets at Washington.
  10. 02 Aug '10 14:51 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by hintjul
    The bible talks nonsense, jews have never lived in a country called israel until 1948, when they took over a nation of people brutally. the story of moses is actually an egyptian story based on king akhenaton from egypt= israelites and moses, complete myth.
    Rome never destroyed Israel and dispersed the people. King David never existed, neither did King Solomon. All that stuff is a bunch of made up stuff. Jews (or Hebrews) never had a country, they wanted one, so they just made stuff up so that they could lay claim to something that never was theirs to begin with.
  11. 02 Aug '10 14:57
    Originally posted by Eladar
    Rome never destroyed Israel and dispersed the people. King David never existed, neither did King Solomon. All that stuff is a bunch of made up stuff. Jews (or Hebrews) never had a country, they wanted one, so they just made stuff up so that they could lay claim to something that never was there to begin with.
    That is just the tip of the iceburg my friend. The Jewish people don't even exist. In fact, I can show you several web sites that refute that the Holocaust even happened.
  12. 02 Aug '10 14:57
    Originally posted by whodey
    It used to be the US until we were displaced by the secularists. In fact, since we are all now displaced and have our country taken from us perhaps we should lob rockets at Washington.
    In 1776, you mean?
  13. Standard member sh76
    Civis Americanus Sum
    02 Aug '10 14:58 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by hintjul
    The bible talks nonsense, jews have never lived in a country called israel until 1948, when they took over a nation of people brutally. the story of moses is actually an egyptian story based on king akhenaton from egypt= israelites and moses, complete myth.


    Do you even believe that you have the foggiest notion as to what you're talking about? Israel wasn't even established until after Moses was dead, making your Moses comment a complete non-sequitur with your "point" about Israel never having existed. Even assuming, arguendo, that Moses never existed, Israel existed for well over a millennium after the Moses story did not take place.

    The fact that the Kingdom of Israel existed, from something like 1,500 BC to something like 70 CE is so documented by historical records that it's not within the realm of reasonable dispute. You might as well be here arguing that the Roman Empire never existed.
  14. 02 Aug '10 15:02
    Originally posted by sh76


    Do you even believe that you have the foggiest notion as to what you're talking about? Israel wasn't even established until after Moses was dead, making your Moses comment a complete non-sequitur with your "point" about Israel never having existed. Even assuming, arguendo, that Moses never existed, Israel existed for well over a millennium after the Moses ...[text shortened]... reasonable dispute. You might as well be here arguing that the Roman Empire never existed.
    Israel didn't exist before Moses? Who did they then blame for the world's problems?
  15. 02 Aug '10 15:02
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    In 1776, you mean?
    The secularists started taking command during the 60's or so and really picked up power in the last couple of decades. It wasn't until the 50's that 'In God We Trust' was put on our currency. Secularists would never do that. Congress felt the need back then to make a statement against the 'godless communists', who have now infiltrated this country and have made great strides in bringing about many of its ideals here in the US.

    Private ownership of business rights have gone out the window. A secular (godless) point of view as a basis for governing. Both of these are fundamental differences in the US which move us closer to the godless communist ideal.