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  1. 05 Aug '14 01:17 / 1 edit
    http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/aug/04/gaza-bomb-israel-conflict-game-available-download-google-play-android

    "A mobile phone game in which players pretend to be the Israeli military
    bombing Gaza has been removed from the Google app store, a spokesman
    for the internet firm said on Monday after a public backlash. ...
    Its maturity setting--designed to protect younger gamers from harmful content--
    was listed as 'low', which meant younger players were *encouraged* to play it.
    The developer, PLAYFTW described an 'improved performance' in a second
    release of the game which mentioned the addition of 'Israel's theme music'."
    --Hannah Jane Parkinson

    What's suitable "Israel's theme music" to accompany bombing and shelling?

    I don't know if the 'Roman Shapiro' named by the article as the game's developer
    is the same Roman Shapiro who works in Israel as an app developer for
    ABM Games (according to his professional profile).

    I believe that the developing of this game (marketed as popular entertainment
    while Palestinian children are still being killed in Gaza) shows the extent to
    which some people like to dehumanize the Palestinians--reducing them to
    mere objects in a game. What's next? Will someone develop a game in
    which a player pretends to be a Nazi concentration camp manager, aiming
    to maximize production through slave labour and minimize costs in implementing
    genocide as efficiently as possible?

    P.S. Does the instant 'thumbs down' mean that a writer here would enjoy
    imagining oneself as an IDF commander bombing Gaza? Given their earlier
    comments implicitly approving of an Israeli genocide of the Palestinians, Seitse
    and RJHinds seem to be the most likely suspects to enjoy playing this game.
  2. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    Poor Filipov :,(
    05 Aug '14 01:30
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KZ_Manager
  3. 05 Aug '14 01:42 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KZ_Manager
    Given that I don't follow computer or video games, I was unaware of this game.
    I noticed that the article states this was developed in the 1990s for platforms
    (Commodore 64, Amiga, DOS, (earliest) Microsoft Windows) that now are obsolete.
    I suspect that this kind of game would be illegal in Germany.
  4. Standard member RJHinds
    The Near Genius
    05 Aug '14 02:08
    Originally posted by Duchess64
    http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/aug/04/gaza-bomb-israel-conflict-game-available-download-google-play-android

    "A mobile phone game in which players pretend to be the Israeli military
    bombing Gaza has been removed from the Google app store, a spokesman
    for the internet firm said on Monday after a public backlash. ...
    Its maturity setting--de ...[text shortened]... alestinians, Seitse
    and RJHinds seem to be the most likely suspects to enjoy playing this game.
    I don't need to play games like that, besides I am 70 years old and don't have a mobile phone that it would work on.
  5. 05 Aug '14 02:12
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    I don't need to play games like that, besides I am 70 years old and don't have a mobile phone that it would work on.
    The question is not whether RJHinds has a mobile phone capable of playing
    a game. RJHinds has been vehemently expressing his opinion that Israel's
    completely justified in killing as many Palestinians as the IDF pleases.
  6. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    Poor Filipov :,(
    05 Aug '14 02:14 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by Duchess64
    Given that I don't follow computer or video games, I was unaware of this game.
    I noticed that the article states this was developed in the 1990s for platforms
    (Commodore 64, Amiga, DOS, (earliest) Microsoft Windows) that now are obsolete.
    I suspect that this kind of game would be illegal in Germany.
    http://www.resist.com/racistgames/index.htm

    (Warning, offensive content)
  7. Standard member RJHinds
    The Near Genius
    05 Aug '14 04:56
    Originally posted by Duchess64
    The question is not whether RJHinds has a mobile phone capable of playing
    a game. RJHinds has been vehemently expressing his opinion that Israel's
    completely justified in killing as many Palestinians as the IDF pleases.
    Not as many as they please, because I doubt that the IDF wants to kill any. However, I do believe the IDF are justified in killing as many as it takes to stop and prevent attacks on Israel, just as I believe that American military would be justified in killing as many as necessary to stop and prevent attacks on America.
  8. Standard member wolfgang59
    Infidel
    05 Aug '14 08:36
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Not as many as they please, because I doubt that the IDF wants to kill any. However, I do believe the IDF are justified in killing as many as it takes to stop and prevent attacks on Israel, just as I believe that American military would be justified in killing as many as necessary to stop and prevent attacks on America.
    I wish there was a biblical god because you would surely roast.
  9. 05 Aug '14 10:29
    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    I wish there was a biblical god because you would surely roast.
    Not if it was the OT God. He carried out a few genocides himself, (also involving the Jews).
  10. 05 Aug '14 11:04
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    http://www.resist.com/racistgames/index.htm

    (Warning, offensive content)
    two worked, two did not, killed 30 Mexicans trying to cross the border, let 88 through.
  11. 05 Aug '14 18:47
    Originally posted by twhitehead to Wolfgang59
    Not if it was the OT God. He carried out a few genocides himself, (also involving the Jews).
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amalek

    "As the _Jewish Encyclopedia_ put it, 'David waged a sacred war of extermination
    against the Amalekites'."

    "Some (Jewish) commentators have discussed the ethics of the commandment
    to exterminate all the Amalekites, including to command to kill all the women,
    children, and the notion of collective punishment."

    "Frequently Jewish fundamentalists refer to the Palestinians as the 'Amalekites'...of today."
    --Nur Masalha
  12. 05 Aug '14 19:13
    Unless you want to start banning all offensive video games due to their offensive nature, I'd say leave it alone.
  13. 05 Aug '14 20:21
    Originally posted by Eladar
    Unless you want to start banning all offensive video games due to their offensive nature, I'd say leave it alone.
    Google has removed the game because Google has decided that it would
    not be in its best business interests under capitalism to keep it around.
    Would Eladar like to question how Google prefers to run its own business?
  14. 05 Aug '14 20:27
    Originally posted by Duchess64
    Google has removed the game because Google has decided that it would
    not be in its best business interests under capitalism to keep it around.
    Would Eladar like to question how Google prefers to run its own business?
    We should not question Google because you agree with Google.
    We should question Israel when it says it needs to stop rockets from being shot at its citizens.
    The only consistency in your position is that you will support anything that furthers your true goal to kill Jews and Israelis.
  15. Standard member finnegan
    GENS UNA SUMUS
    05 Aug '14 20:35
    Originally posted by quackquack
    We should not question Google because you agree with Google.
    We should question Israel when it says it needs to stop rockets from being shot at its citizens.
    The only consistency in your position is that you will support anything that furthers your true goal to kill Jews and Israelis.
    Nobody questions the need to stop rockets being fired at civilians.

    What is questioned is the methods employed and also there are serious questions if this is really and truly what is being done, or if Israel has a different agenda.

    Your constant determination to misrepresent what is being said is tiresome.