An inquest into the deaths at Lakanal House "found the fire spread unexpectedly fast, both laterally and vertically, trapping people in their homes, with the exterior cladding panels burning through in just four and a half minutes". As in the case of the Grenfell Tower fire eight years later, "the official advice was for people to remain in their homes in the event of a blaze. The inquest concluded that years of botched renovations had removed fire-stopping material between flats and communal corridors, allowing a blaze to spread, and that the problem was not picked up in safety inspections carried out by Southwark council."
Frankfurt’s fire chief, Reinhard Ries, said he was appalled at the fire at Grenfell Tower and said tighter fire-safety rules for tower blocks in Germany meant that a similar incident could not happen there. US building codes also restrict the use of metal-composite panels without flame-retardant cores on buildings above 15 metres.
Germany is deemed to have some of the most stringent fire regulations in the world. High-rise tower blocks are common, particularly in former communist parts of the country, where they dominated new-build housing for decades. In Berlin and elsewhere, the austere blocks have become fashionable places to live, in part because of a housing shortage and the high cost of accommodation.
Berlin’s fire chief, Wilfried Gräfling, said the London fire made it clear that fire regulations should be tightened further with only mineral materials used in cladding panels. “We will try to persuade lawmakers that flammable material should no longer be allowed to be used as an insulant,” he told Der Spiegel. “Only mineral material that can’t burn, ensuring that it’s no longer possible for a fire to spread via the cladding,.”
The speed at which the fire spread at Grenfell Tower has led to intense speculation that external cladding panels made from aluminium sheets with a flammable polyethylene core may have fuelled the fire that tore through the block in the early hours of Wednesday morning. ...
In the UK there are no regulations requiring the use of fire-retardant material in cladding used on the exterior of tower blocks and schools. But the Fire Protection Association (FPA), an industry body, has been pushing for years for the government to make it a statutory requirement for local authorities and companies to use only fire-retardant material. Jim Glocking, technical director of the FPA, said it had “lobbied long and hard” for building regulations on the issue to be tightened, but nothing had happened.
Originally posted by finneganAww, is no one playing?
2009 - Lakanal House tower block catches fire killing 6 people. The local authority is prosecuted for lapses in fire safety. A review is promised by the Labour government after pressure from the Fire Protection Association (FPA).
2010 - Building Regulations Act is published, including provisions for fire safety. Conservatives win election, a review is pr ...[text shortened]... ous car park modifications causing access issues as warned by the resident action group in 2013.
Originally posted by Blood On The TracksHere's one from a pro-Brexit hard right-wing British newspaper:
ERM. Could D64 provide (presumably) multiple links to this 'many'??
Originally posted by Duchess64So D64, is all red tape good?
Here's one from a pro-Brexit hard right-wing British newspaper:
"Brexit is a once in a lifetime opportunity to sweep away red tape and free Britain's economy"
Originally posted by WajomaMinimum crews of 4 and the general huge reduction in mumbers of firemen is a problem because of the nature of the work. There are of course many days when staff are ticking along and relaxed but it is when called to a serious fire that the numbers suddenly matter critically.
Aww, is no one playing?
" ...cutting minimum staffing levels from 5 to 4."
What, exactly, is wrong with 4 man crews?
Originally posted by finneganYou didn't answer the question.
Minimum crews of 4 and the general huge reduction in mumbers of firemen is a problem because of the nature of the work. There are of course many days when staff are ticking along and relaxed but it is when called to a serious fire that the numbers suddenly matter critically.
At Grenfell Tower this week, the firemen ended up working 12 hour shifts in h ...[text shortened]... who deliver the service. Those who think public workers can be treated in this way are wicked.
Originally posted by WajomaWhat is wrong is that 4 is fewer than 5. The job is labour intensive. It needs people and without a full crew the workers are being asked to take more risks.
You didn't answer the question.
What is wrong with 4 man crews?
You threw it in there to fluff out your post, but can you say specifically what is wrong.
You've again tried to fluff out your post, why is it better to make 5 men work a 12 hour shift in "horrific conditions" than it is for 4 men to work a 12 hour shift in "horrific conditions"? What ...[text shortened]... ot? Name some specific scenarios and the frequency of these scenarios occurring.
Originally posted by finneganHaha, you don't know do you.
What is wrong is that 4 is fewer than 5. The job is labour intensive. It needs people and without a full crew the workers are being asked to take more risks.
Accountants should not make such decisions. This is not lean engineering.