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  1. Standard memberRemoved
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    28 Feb '17 02:59
    Food for thought....
    Group Defends Carbon Dioxide as ‘Elixir of Life’ in Climate Change Debate



    Forget everything government officials, many media outlets, and “activist scientists” have warned about the damaging effects of carbon dioxide, because in reality there’s no cause for alarm, a group called the CO2 Coalition urges.

    Scientists, engineers, and policy analysts who are part of the nonprofit organization turned out in force Friday at the Conservative Political Action Conference, or CPAC, outside Washington.

    “Atmospheric CO2 is not a pollutant, it is in fact the very elixir of life,” Craig Idso, a science adviser to the CO2 Coalition, said during a panel discussion at CPAC exploring the benefits attached to higher levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere.

    The CO2 Coalition, founded in 2015, describes its mission as “educating thought leaders, policymakers, and the public about the important contribution made by carbon dioxide to our lives and the economy.”
    Contrary to what “activist scientists,” political figures, and media outlets have told the pubic, Idso told CPAC attendees, higher levels of carbon dioxide actually will work to the advantage of future generations.

    “Adding CO2 to the atmosphere enhances plant water use efficiency,” he said.

    Increased levels of carbon dioxide could boost plant growth and make plants more resistant to droughts, he said. This could lead to increased food production, which in turn could offset projected food shortages.

    Idso, who has advanced degrees in geography and agronomy, is founder and chairman of the Center for the Study of Carbon Dioxide and Global Change, a nonprofit based in Arizona. Adherents of man-made, catastrophic climate change consider him a “denier.”

    “Unfortunately, the government mindset has viewed CO2 as a pollutant,” Idso said.

    The higher levels of atmospheric carbon dioxide “typically boosts the optimum temperature for plant photosynthesis by several degrees [Celsius],” he said, adding:

    Higher CO2 raises the temperature at which plants experience heat-induced death. Plants will therefore tolerate predicted increases in future temperatures.

    Joining him for the CPAC panel discussion was CO2 Coalition member Kathleen Hartnett White, a senior fellow and director of the Armstrong Center for Energy and Environment at the Texas Public Policy Foundation.

    “No, carbon dioxide is not a pollutant and fossil fuels are not the agents of death,” Hartnett White said.

    The good news, she said, is that real progress has been made in combating genuine pollutants such as carbon monoxide, sulfur dioxide, and other pollutants identified in the Clean Air Act.

    “Getting the lead out of gasoline was a big factor,” Hartnett White said. “There are doomslayers and doomsayers, and the doomslayers will always win.”

    Hartnett White, a member of President Donald Trump’s economic advisory team during his campaign, also is labeled a climate change “denier” by some environmental activists.

    During a Q&A session, James Delingpole, executive editor of the London branch of Breitbart News Network, asked Idso why environmental activists have made such an effort to “demonize CO2.”

    “Different people latch onto it for different reasons,” Idso said, adding:

    If you’re a scientist, you must publish to support yourself and your family. And if you’re out there saying global warming is not a problem, you are not going to get a research grant. If you’re a politician, you know that if you can control carbon, you can control life.

    http://dailysignal.com/2017/02/25/group-defends-carbon-dioxide-as-elixir-of-life-in-climate-change-debate/
  2. Standard membervivify
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    28 Feb '17 04:597 edits
    Originally posted by checkbaiter
    Food for thought....
    Group Defends Carbon Dioxide as ‘Elixir of Life’ in Climate Change Debate



    Forget everything government officials, many media outlets, and “activist scientists” have warned about the damaging effects of carbon dioxide, because in reality there’s no cause for alarm, a group called the CO2 Coalition urges.

    Scientists, enginee ...[text shortened]... lysignal.com/2017/02/25/group-defends-carbon-dioxide-as-elixir-of-life-in-climate-change-debate/
    "... at the Conservative Political Action Conference"

    *sigh*.

    This is like when conservatives introduced intelligent design after creationism failed; a pseudo-intellectual argument unable to hide the stench of an obvious agenda.

    a) Deforestation is a problem that continues to get worse. As we lose forests and vital plant life, allowing CO2 to build up in the atmosphere is an increasingly horrendous idea; we're losing the very organisms these conservatives say will use up the CO2.

    b) CO2 isn't the only greenhouse gas. Methane, for example, is released (by the tons) due to absolute careless disposal of excess food (from both private homes as well as restaurants, grocery stores, etc.). As global temperatures rise, water vapor can also act as a greenhouse gas. This means temps are rising not only because of CO2 directly, but also because of indirect effects of greehouse gases like CO2, With so many greenhouse gases raising temps around the globe, we can't afford to let greenhouse gases like CO2 run rampant.

    c) CO2 aren't the only type of carbon emissions. Carbon monoxide is another type of greenhouse gas resulting from the combustion of oil and gas. This type of carbon gas can be deadly to plants, animals and humans. This is we need to be vigilant in reducing carbon emissions.

    d) Even if an increase in carbon dioxide is good for plants, it is toxic to humans:

    http://questions.sci-toys.com/node/39

    "If you breathe in too much carbon dioxide, your blood becomes acidic, since carbon dioxide dissolves in water to form carbonic acid."

    This conservative group is just spreading misinformation; a type that can actually be deadly to the human race.
  3. Standard membershavixmir
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    28 Feb '17 05:08
    Originally posted by checkbaiter
    Food for thought....
    Group Defends Carbon Dioxide as ‘Elixir of Life’ in Climate Change Debate



    Forget everything government officials, many media outlets, and “activist scientists” have warned about the damaging effects of carbon dioxide, because in reality there’s no cause for alarm, a group called the CO2 Coalition urges.

    Scientists, enginee ...[text shortened]... lysignal.com/2017/02/25/group-defends-carbon-dioxide-as-elixir-of-life-in-climate-change-debate/
    Oh, I can smell the foul stench of the Heartland Institute a mile off...

    That being said, considering photosynthesis, some plants probably will flourish with more CO2 in the air.

    That being said, I've never heard people actually call CO2 a pollutant...
    And "activist scientist" is not the correct term to describe 97% of the scientific community.
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    28 Feb '17 05:42
    Those co2 people are plants, I tell you, plants!
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    28 Feb '17 07:29
    Originally posted by checkbaiter
    Food for thought....
    Too bad it made my brain vomit.
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    28 Feb '17 08:15
    Originally posted by vivify
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    a) Deforestation is a problem that continues to get worse. As we lose forests and vital plant life, allowing CO2 to build up in the atmosphere is an increasingly horrendous idea; we're losing the very organisms these conservatives say will use up the CO2.


    There's not much in it in comparing forests with grassland for CO2 absorption and release.

    Sounds like vivfy is just spreading misinformation; a type that can actually be deadly to the human race.
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    28 Feb '17 09:11
    Originally posted by checkbaiter
    Food for thought....
    Group Defends Carbon Dioxide as ‘Elixir of Life’ in Climate Change Debate



    Forget everything government officials, many media outlets, and “activist scientists” have warned about the damaging effects of carbon dioxide, because in reality there’s no cause for alarm, a group called the CO2 Coalition urges.

    Scientists, enginee ...[text shortened]... lysignal.com/2017/02/25/group-defends-carbon-dioxide-as-elixir-of-life-in-climate-change-debate/
    More CPAC nonsense.
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    28 Feb '17 10:15
    Originally posted by checkbaiter
    Food for thought....
    Perhaps you can give us your own understanding of what global warming is and why it might be a problem.
    (then we can correct any misunderstandings you may have).

    Tip 1: its not a political issue, but a scientific one.
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    28 Feb '17 11:32
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    Perhaps you can give us your own understanding of what global warming is and why it might be a problem.
    (then we can correct any misunderstandings you may have).

    Tip 1: its not a political issue, but a scientific one.
    God is perfect.
    Everything God makes is perfect.
    God made the Earth.
    The Earth is perfect.
    Global warming cannot exist.
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    28 Feb '17 11:54
    Originally posted by checkbaiter
    Food for thought....
    Group Defends Carbon Dioxide as ‘Elixir of Life’ in Climate Change Debate



    Forget everything government officials, many media outlets, and “activist scientists” have warned about the damaging effects of carbon dioxide, because in reality there’s no cause for alarm, a group called the CO2 Coalition urges.

    Scientists, enginee ...[text shortened]... lysignal.com/2017/02/25/group-defends-carbon-dioxide-as-elixir-of-life-in-climate-change-debate/
    and if you drink too much water you drown, you dumbass. just because something is good, it doesn't mean it is so in any amount.

    no scientist claims CO2 is bad. they all claim that too much of it is a leading cause in global warming.
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    28 Feb '17 11:59
    The world has been greening recently.

    https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2016/carbon-dioxide-fertilization-greening-earth
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    28 Feb '17 14:51
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    Perhaps you can give us your own understanding of what global warming is and why it might be a problem.
    (then we can correct any misunderstandings you may have).

    Tip 1: its not a political issue, but a scientific one.
    I am not schooled on the topic, I just put it out there to see debate for both sides. So far it is much one sided, because of politics. I agree it should not be a political issue, but the Left has contributed false information to support it.
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    28 Feb '17 14:57
    Originally posted by Eladar
    The world has been greening recently.

    https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2016/carbon-dioxide-fertilization-greening-earth
    Very interesting. Thanks
  14. Standard membersh76
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    28 Feb '17 15:25
    Originally posted by shavixmir
    God is perfect.
    Everything God makes is perfect.
    God made the Earth.
    The Earth is perfect.
    Global warming cannot exist.
    The question is not whether global warming exists. On the contrary, the premise of the OP assumes that it does.

    The question is whether that's inherently such a bad thing.
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    28 Feb '17 15:31
    Originally posted by checkbaiter
    I am not schooled on the topic, I just put it out there to see debate for both sides. So far it is much one sided, because of politics. I agree it should not be a political issue, but the Left has contributed false information to support it.
    Why do you assume that everyone who disagrees with you must be 'the left'?

    The fact is that large amounts of CO2 in the atmosphere are causing warming which causes change. Humans do not adapt well to change. Change is very very expensive.
    Do you understand that much at least?
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