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  1. SubscriberAThousandYoung
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    15 Oct '15 22:14
    Originally posted by JS357
    Here is a list of participants at the 2015 meeting:

    http://bilderbergmeetings.org/participants2015.html

    I wonder which one is "Eladar."

    And here is the agenda of that meeting. Climate change is missing. "Current economic Issues" might include economic inequality, perhaps discussing how to maximize it.
    I thought the list of attendees was secret.
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    15 Oct '15 22:161 edit
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    I thought the list of attendees was secret.
    It's what I found at their web site. (I've corrected my omission of the link to the agenda.)

    Here it is: http://www.bilderbergmeetings.org/press-release.html

    Their secrecy commitment seems to focus more on what they say, more than who they are.
  3. Standard memberfinnegan
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    15 Oct '15 22:26
    Originally posted by JS357
    Here is a list of participants at the 2015 meeting:

    http://bilderbergmeetings.org/participants2015.html

    I wonder which one is "Eladar."

    And here is the agenda of that meeting. Climate change is missing. "Current economic Issues" might include economic inequality, perhaps discussing how to maximize it.

    http://www.bilderbergmeetings.org/press-release.html
    Ed Balls is on the list. Says everything.
  4. The Catbird's Seat
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    16 Oct '15 01:38
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    So if you have a house worth $100,000 is that counted as your wealth? It would seem that would be a variable depending on how much is mortgaged Vs the assessed value.

    For instance, if a young couple buys a house that costs $100,000 that wouldn't seem to me to count towards their 'wealth' since their equity in the house is essentially zero, maybe 10% if ...[text shortened]... ing.

    But what about income? Doesn't that factor in? How is 'wealth' tied to income if at all?
    Generally a home is partly balanced by a mortgage, so the $100K home with a $90k mortgage leaves about $10k wealth. For average Americans and Europeans wealth amounts to that plus any savings or retirement plan, minus credit card and other debts.

    Most people, Americans included are economically ignorant, paying lots of interest, instead of earning it.

    Each of us has only 24 hours a day, and even if very industrious, can use only about a third of that time earning wages. To rise above wage earning, we have to employ capital to earn for us, and capital accumulation is done by savings.
  5. The Catbird's Seat
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    16 Oct '15 01:46
    Originally posted by finnegan
    Well that is not the pattern revealed by the data, as Piketty showed recently, and I am not sure where you think these revolutions were that turned the world on its head. In the 19th century, there was a massively unequal distribution of wealth, ignoring the USA where special conditions arose from the expansion into the west over two centuries, Those speci ...[text shortened]... ntion since academic economists have been unable to demonstrate the flaws in Piketty's research.
    Every chapter of Piketty's book acknowledges that although the data he collected seems convincing it is not conclusive. Of course it is convincing to him, and more so to lemmings like you, that start out with a desire to believe.
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