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  1. Zugzwang
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    23 Aug '17 21:01
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bronislav_Kaminski

    Bronislav Vladislavovich Kaminski (a Russian) became a Brigadeführer in the Waffen SS.
    He was the leader of the Lokot Autonomy in German-occupied Russia.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lokot_Autonomy
  2. SubscriberAThousandYoung
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    23 Aug '17 21:465 edits
    Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Volume 2, Chapter 2:

    During the last century it was lamentable for those who had to witness it, to notice how in these circles I have just mentioned the word 'Germanize' was frivolously played with, though the practice was often well intended. I well remember how in the days of my youth this very term used to give rise to notions which were false to an incredible degree. Even in Pan-German circles one heard the opinion expressed that the Austrian Germans might very well succeed in Germanizing the Austrian Slavs, if only the Government would be ready to co-operate. Those people did not understand that a policy of Germanization can be carried out only as regards soil and never to people. What they mostly meant by Germanization was a process of forcing other people to speak the German language. But it is almost inconceivable how such a mistake could be made as to think that a Negro or a Chinaman will become a German because he has learned the German language and is willing to speak German for the future, and even to cast his vote for a German political party...

    ... Unfortunately, a policy towards Poland, whereby the East was to be Germanized, was demanded by many and was based on the same false reasoning. Here again it was believed that the Polish people could be Germanized by being compelled to use the German language. The result would have been fatal. A people of foreign race would have had to use the German language to express modes of thought that were foreign to the German, thus compromising by its own inferiority the dignity and nobility of our nation.
    It is revolting to think how much damage is indirectly done to German prestige today through the fact that the German patois of the Jews when they enter the United States enables them to be classed as Germans, because many Americans are quite ignorant of German conditions. Among us, nobody would think of taking these unhygienic immigrants from the East for members of the German race and nation merely because they mostly speak German.
  3. Standard memberkaroly aczel
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    23 Aug '17 22:33
    Originally posted by @athousandyoung
    Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Volume 2, Chapter 2:

    During the last century it was lamentable for those who had to witness it, to notice how in these circles I have just mentioned the word 'Germanize' was frivolously played with, though the practice was often well intended. I well remember how in the days of my youth this very term used to give ...[text shortened]... East for members of the German race and nation merely because they mostly speak German.
    What? You just carry that around with you in your back pocket?

    Interesting though
  4. Subscribersonhouse
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    25 Aug '17 17:54
    Originally posted by @duchess64
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bronislav_Kaminski

    Bronislav Vladislavovich Kaminski (a Russian) became a Brigadeführer in the Waffen SS.
    He was the leader of the Lokot Autonomy in German-occupied Russia.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lokot_Autonomy
    That is quite a story, never knew of it. I wonder how they thought such a situation could last? A German government in Russia? I guess the Germans found out just how long that would last.
  5. Zugzwang
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    25 Aug '17 21:011 edit
    Originally posted by @sonhouse
    That is quite a story, never knew of it. I wonder how they thought such a situation could last?
    A German government in Russia? I guess the Germans found out just how long that would last.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Liberation_Army

    "The Russian Liberation Army (Russian: Русская освободительная армия, Russkaya
    osvoboditel'naya armiya, abbreviated as РОА, ROA, also known as the Vlasov army
    (Власовская армия, Vlasovskaya armiya)) was a group of predominantly Russian forces
    that fought under German command during World War II. The army was led by Andrey Vlasov,
    a defected Red Army general, and members of the army are often referred to as Vlasovtsy (Власовцы)."
  6. Zugzwang
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    30 Aug '17 21:012 edits
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/aug/30/japan-minister-tara-aso-praises-hitler-right-motives

    "Japanese minister Taro Aso praises Hitler, saying he had 'right motives'"

    "Japan’s finance minister, Taro Aso, has courted fresh controversy after expressing
    admiration for the Nazis, describing Adolf Hitler as “having the right motives”. "

    "It is not the first time the gaffe-prone Aso has made controversial remarks about the Nazis.
    In 2013, he came under pressure to resign after suggesting that Japan should follow
    the Nazis’ example when considering how to change its constitution."

    "Earlier this week, the Simon Wiesenthal Centre said it had called for an investigation
    into Katsuya Takasu, a well-known plastic surgeon and TV celebrity, who highlighted
    the Nazis’ contribution to science and medicine, and appeared to deny the Holocaust."

    "After saying he had learned “how great Nazism was” while studying at Kiel University in
    Germany, Takasu wrote: “There is no doubt that the Jews were persecuted. But we only
    know it from hearsay and all of it is based on information from the Allies.”

    "In June, Yutaka Harada, a member of the board of Japan’s central bank praised Hitler’s "wonderful"
    fiscal and monetary policies, but said they had enabled him to go on and do “horrible” things."

    Many, if not most, Japanese have been far from honest and self-critical in examining Japan's
    recent history of war crimes in Asia. And most Westerners don't object to Japan's usual
    historical amnesia (or routine lying) about its record when the victims are not Westerners.
    Westerners tend to object more to the Japanese *praising the Nazis* than to the Japanese
    *committing Nazi-like war crimes* against non-Westerners (particularly the Chinese).
    Few Westerners seem to disapprove of Japan's biological and chemical warfare in China.

    During 1932-45, Japanese scientists and doctors conducted barbarous experiments (which
    were as terrible as done by the Nazis) upon many living Chinese. (About the only US media
    attention to this subject is whether or not any American or other Western POWS were victims.)
    After the war, the USA pardoned these Japanese scientists and doctors (who never were
    prosecuted for war crimes) and paid many of them to develop biological weapons for the USA.
    (These US biological weapons may have been tested against North Korea and China in the Korean War.)
    Many, if not most, of these Japanese scientists and doctors rose to high positions in Japan's
    scientific, medical, or academic establishments. While there were some Westerners who
    shunned German scientists or doctors with Nazi pasts, I don't know of any Westerner who
    likewise shunned any Japanese scientist or doctor who had committed war crimes
    against only non-Westerners.
  7. Zugzwang
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    01 Sep '17 01:371 edit
    Some extreme right-wing Americans here (particularly Normbenign and Whodey) like to
    deny that Hitler was right-wing, absurdly insisting that he was left-wing.

    https://www.indy100.com/article/nazi-socialist-right-wing-white-supremacists-history-twitter-mikestuchbery-7900001?utm_source=indy&utm_medium=top5&utm_campaign=i100

    "Man says Nazis were socialist, gets schooled by history writer"

    "'Nazi' is the short name. The full name for the 'Nazi' party was the "National Socialist
    German Workers' Party" ("Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei" in German).

    The fact that the far-right party contained 'socialist' in the name was a rebranding gambit
    to draw workers away from communism and into populist nationalism.

    Despite this, the populist nationalists that support the likes of Donald Trump, regularly
    take the opportunity to remind modern day liberal or left-leaning critics of white-supremacists
    and neo-nazis that 'Socialism' was included in the Nazi party name."
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