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  1. Standard member Bosse de Nage
    Zellulärer Automat
    30 Jun '09 07:45
    I have no idea what's really going on there. Do you?
  2. 30 Jun '09 07:47
    http://www.redhotpawn.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=115082&page=2

    zeeblebot

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    http://www.honduras.net/honduras_constitution2.html

    ARTICULO 42.- La calidad de ciudadano se pierde:

    1. Por prestar servicios en tiempo de guerra a enemigos de Honduras o de sus aliados;

    2. Por prestar ayuda en contra del Estado de Honduras, a un extranjero o a un gobierno extranjero en cualquier reclamación diplomática o ante un tribunal internacional;

    3. Por desempeñar en el país, sin licencia del Congreso Nacional, empleo de nación extranjera, del ramo militar o de carácter político;


    4. Por coartar la libertad de sufragio, adulterar documentos electorales o emplear medios fraudulentos para burlar la voluntad popular;

    5. Por incitar, promover o apoyar el continuismo o la reelección del Presidente de la República; y,

    6. Por residir los hondureños naturalizados, por más de dos años consecutivos, en el extranjero sin previa autorización del Poder Ejecutivo.

    En los casos a que se refieren los numerales 1) y 2), la declaración de la pérdida de la ciudadanía la hará el Congreso Nacional mediante expediente circunstanciado que se forme al efecto. Para los casos de los numerales 3) y 6), dicha declaración la hará el Poder Ejecutivo mediante acuerdo gubernativo; y para los casos de los incisos 4) y 5) también por acuerdo gubernativo, previa sentencia condenatoria dictada por los tribunales competentes.


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    FMF
    Salmon's Bitter Kin

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    Originally posted by zeeblebot
    http://www.honduras.net/honduras_constitution2.html

    ARTICULO 42.- La calidad de ciudadano se pierde:

    1. Por prestar servicios en tiempo de guerra a enemigos de Honduras o de sus aliados;

    2. Por prestar ayuda en contra del Estado de Honduras, a un extranjero o a un gobierno extranjero en cualquier reclamación diplomática o ante un tribunal internac ...[text shortened]... n por acuerdo gubernativo, previa sentencia condenatoria dictada por los tribunales competentes.


    This is a constitution that has a stipulation that it cannot be changed??


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    zeeblebot

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    Originally posted by zeeblebot
    http://www.honduras.net/honduras_constitution2.html

    ARTICULO 42.- La calidad de ciudadano se pierde:

    1. Por prestar servicios en tiempo de guerra a enemigos de Honduras o de sus aliados;

    2. Por prestar ayuda en contra del Estado de Honduras, a un extranjero o a un gobierno extranjero en cualquier reclamación diplomática o ante un tribunal internac ...[text shortened]... n por acuerdo gubernativo, previa sentencia condenatoria dictada por los tribunales competentes.


    http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=es&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.honduras.net%2Fhonduras_constitution2.html

    ARTICLE 42 .- The quality of citizen is lost:

    1. For service in wartime enemies of Honduras or its allies;

    2. For assistance with the State of Honduras, an alien or a foreign government in any diplomatic claim or before an international tribunal;

    3. To play in the country, without license from the National Congress, employment of foreign nation, or military branch of a political nature;

    4. For the freedom to vote, electoral documents adulterate or use fraudulent means to circumvent the popular will;

    5. Incite, encourage or support the continuity or re-election of President of the Republic, and

    6. Naturalized Honduran resident for more than two consecutive years abroad without prior approval of the Executive.

    In the cases referred to in paragraphs 1) and 2) the declaration of loss of citizenship will file the National Congress through circumstances that formed for the purpose. For the cases of paragraphs 3) and 6) That the statement made by the Executive Government Agreement, and for the cases of subparagraphs 4) and 5) also by governmental agreement, after the sentence handed down by courts.


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    zeeblebot

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    http://www.honduras.net/honduras_constitution2.html

    ARTICULO 239.- El ciudadano que haya desempeñado la titularidad del Poder Ejecutivo no podrá ser Presidente o Designado.

    El que quebrante esta disposición o proponga su reforma, así como aquellos que lo apoyen directa o indirectamente, cesarán de inmediato en el desempeño de sus respectivos cargos, y quedarán inhabilitados por diez años para el ejercicio de toda función pública.


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    zeeblebot

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    Originally posted by zeeblebot
    http://www.honduras.net/honduras_constitution2.html

    ARTICULO 239.- El ciudadano que haya desempeñado la titularidad del Poder Ejecutivo no podrá ser Presidente o Designado.

    El que quebrante esta disposición o proponga su reforma, así como aquellos que lo apoyen directa o indirectamente, cesarán de inmediato en el desempeño de sus respectivos cargos, y quedarán inhabilitados por diez años para el ejercicio de toda función pública.


    http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=es&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.honduras.net%2Fhonduras_constitution2.html

    ARTICLE 239 .- The citizen who has ownership of the executive branch may not be President or Designee.

    Anyone who violates this provision or the proposed reform, and support those who directly or indirectly, immediately cease the discharge of their duties, and shall be disqualified for ten years to exercise any public function.


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  3. 30 Jun '09 07:50
    Honduras does not want to revert to a banana republic as many of their neighbors recently have.

    the writers of their constitution wisely provided provisions against the Prez seeking multiple terms.

    the congress, the supreme court, and the military wisely enforced these provisions.

    kudos to all of them!
  4. Subscriber FMF
    a.k.a. John W Booth
    30 Jun '09 14:21
    Originally posted by zeeblebot
    the congress, the supreme court, and the military wisely enforced these provisions.
    Mmmm. Yes. But apparently the the congress, the supreme court, and the military are terrified of hearing what the people think or want. Doesn't strike me as quite as black and white as you'd have us believe.
  5. Donation rwingett
    Ming the Merciless
    30 Jun '09 14:49
    Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
    I have no idea what's really going on there. Do you?
    The coup has nothing to do with the proposed constitutional referendum. Its all about whether Honduras will remain as the subservient lapdog of the western dominated-neoliberal-imperialist-"free trade"-new world order, or whether they will break free from those chains and chart their own course. Such as president Zelaya's decision to join the 'Bolivarian Alternative For The Americas', which stands as an alternative to the US dominated 'Free Trade Area of the Americas.' The proposed constitutional referendum was just a convenient excuse for the coup plotters to proceed.
  6. 30 Jun '09 17:22
    Originally posted by FMF
    Mmmm. Yes. But apparently the the congress, the supreme court, and the military are terrified of hearing what the people think or want. Doesn't strike me as quite as black and white as you'd have us believe.
    all they have to do is look down the street at Venezuela.