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  1. Behind the scenes
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    At 15, I remember sitting in math class listening to the teacher warbeling about the details of the Quadratic formula. 20 min. later I was hanging 20 ft above a gym floor on a rope that I just climbed, listening to an ape like gym teacher below yelling that I needed to "move faster, because 12 seconds to do this is for sissies!" Later on in English class I nearly fell asleep listening to our right brained teacher lecturing us on the symbolism contained in the movie Juliet of the Spirits, a film about the visions, memories, and mysticism that help a 40-something woman to find the strength to leave her cheating husband. After 40+ years of living in the real world, I'm still trying to find a use for any of this. I'd estimate I actually use about 15% of what I learned in school, the rest was a complete waste of time. It seems to me public and private schools need some serious revision, since such a small amount of it is really useful. Thoughts?
  2. Germany
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    14 Dec '18 07:26
    @mchill said
    At 15, I remember sitting in math class listening to the teacher warbeling about the details of the Quadratic formula. 20 min. later I was hanging 20 ft above a gym floor on a rope that I just climbed, listening to an ape like gym teacher below yelling that I needed to "move faster, because 12 seconds to do this is for sissies!" Later on in English class I nearly fell asleep l ...[text shortened]... vate schools need some serious revision, since such a small amount of it is really useful. Thoughts?
    You're typing on a computer, wondering about the usefulness of maths?
  3. SubscriberSuzianne
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    14 Dec '18 07:32
    @mchill said
    At 15, I remember sitting in math class listening to the teacher warbeling about the details of the Quadratic formula. 20 min. later I was hanging 20 ft above a gym floor on a rope that I just climbed, listening to an ape like gym teacher below yelling that I needed to "move faster, because 12 seconds to do this is for sissies!" Later on in English class I nearly fell asleep l ...[text shortened]... vate schools need some serious revision, since such a small amount of it is really useful. Thoughts?
    Really, it's not so much what you learn in high school, it only gives you a foundation for later, when you get to college. High school is basically about learning to function in society. This is where you learn most of your fundamental skills for dealing with people.
  4. Standard membervivify
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    14 Dec '18 12:10
    @mchill said
    At 15, I remember sitting in math class listening to the teacher warbeling about the details of the Quadratic formula. 20 min. later I was hanging 20 ft above a gym floor on a rope that I just climbed, listening to an ape like gym teacher below yelling that I needed to "move faster, because 12 seconds to do this is for sissies!" Later on in English class I nearly fell asleep l ...[text shortened]... vate schools need some serious revision, since such a small amount of it is really useful. Thoughts?
    All of that is taught just in case you go into a field that requires those skills. If you want to be an engineer, it's useful to have a good foundation in math, rather than start from scratch. Same with rope climbing and anyone who wanted to join the army or be a physical trainer.
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    @mchill said
    At 15, I remember sitting in math class listening to the teacher warbeling about the details of the Quadratic formula. 20 min. later I was hanging 20 ft above a gym floor on a rope that I just climbed, listening to an ape like gym teacher below yelling that I needed to "move faster, because 12 seconds to do this is for sissies!" Later on in English class I nearly fell asleep l ...[text shortened]... vate schools need some serious revision, since such a small amount of it is really useful. Thoughts?
    The only things you need to learn in school are:

    1. Socialism is our only hope.
    2. How to put a rubber on a banana.
    3. Only taxes can save us from global warming
    4. Feminists rule, but never refer to people as men and women cuz that is bigoted
    5. Racism is evil, so shun white American males.

    That's about it.
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    14 Dec '18 15:46
    @mchill
    An education prepares you for life on many levels. In primary and secondary school you should be learning critical thinking skills through each subject area, math (the language of science), the scientific method and basic science concepts. You seem to be focused on a technical education where all one needs to learn is how to use a remote to turn on the telli, how to follow visual directions for operating a robot (eliminates the need to actually learn to read). One area where our public education system in the U.S. seems to be failing, in my humble opinion, is in not teaching the fundamentals of our constitution, the amendments and the Bill of Rights. As a result, too many in the U.S.A. have a dismal understanding of our democracy and our democratic institutions, which are rapidly being destroyed.
  7. Germany
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    14 Dec '18 15:52
    @whodey said
    The only things you need to learn in school are:

    1. Socialism is our only hope.
    2. How to put a rubber on a banana.
    3. Only taxes can save us from global warming
    4. Feminists rule, but never refer to people as men and women cuz that is bigoted
    5. Racism is evil, so shun white American males.

    That's about it.
    Is that what you learned in school?
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    14 Dec '18 15:55
    @whodey said
    The only things you need to learn in school are:

    1. Socialism is our only hope.
    2. How to put a rubber on a banana.
    3. Only taxes can save us from global warming
    4. Feminists rule, but never refer to people as men and women cuz that is bigoted
    5. Racism is evil, so shun white American males.

    That's about it.
    Or ....... You could just read the Bible every day.
  9. Standard membershavixmir
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    Reading, writing, arithmetic.
    Where places are on a map.
    The general time line of history, so you csn place films, stories, yourself.
    Biology.

    And most importantly: nurturing curiosity.
    Get those kids interested in whatever and teach them how to find out more and express themselves.
  10. Zugzwang
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    14 Dec '18 19:33
    @mchill said
    At 15, I remember sitting in math class listening to the teacher warbeling about the details of the Quadratic formula. 20 min. later I was hanging 20 ft above a gym floor on a rope that I just climbed, listening to an ape like gym teacher below yelling that I needed to "move faster, because 12 seconds to do this is for sissies!" Later on in English class I nearly fell asleep l ...[text shortened]... vate schools need some serious revision, since such a small amount of it is really useful. Thoughts?
    Mchill apparently believes that all education should be strictly vocational or else it would be 'wasted'.

    This was (and is) a common attitude among more powerful and privileged people
    looking down upon 'lesser' people. Wealthy people liked to believe that working-class
    people should be educated only in order to become better servants of the wealthy.
    Working-class people definitely should not be 'confused' (or led astray) by having
    their minds exposed to 'dangerous' 'seditious' ideas about history or politics.
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    @shavixmir said
    Reading, writing, arithmetic.
    Where places are on a map.
    The general time line of history, so you csn place films, stories, yourself.
    Biology.

    And most importantly: nurturing curiosity.
    Get those kids interested in whatever and teach them how to find out more and express themselves.
    Great posts, though with the usual acknowledgement that whodey's absurdities are born of his prodding indifference.

    I'll just humbly add one thing.
    My study habits were formed during my elementary education and to it, I owe a great debt of gratitude.
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    @mghrn55 said
    Or ....... You could just read the Bible every day.
    I tried bringing in a Bible to school one day but my teacher of feminist bisexually explicit Marxiest studies spewed bile all over me when she saw what I was reading as she levitated off the floor with her head spinning round and round.

    I learned a hard lesson that day.

    Yep, 3rd grade was rough.
  13. SubscriberSuzianne
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    @whodey said
    I learned a hard lesson that day.

    Yep, 3rd grade was rough.
    That you are psychotic?

    Or was that just the crystal meth?
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    @mchill said
    At 15, I remember sitting in math class listening to the teacher warbeling about the details of the Quadratic formula. 20 min. later I was hanging 20 ft above a gym floor on a rope that I just climbed, listening to an ape like gym teacher below yelling that I needed to "move faster, because 12 seconds to do this is for sissies!" Later on in English class I nearly fell asleep l ...[text shortened]... vate schools need some serious revision, since such a small amount of it is really useful. Thoughts?
    Boot camp will teach ya better. Then get some street smarts if ya wanna survive in this world.
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    15 Dec '18 01:25
    @suzianne said
    Really, it's not so much what you learn in high school, it only gives you a foundation for later, when you get to college. High school is basically about learning to function in society. This is where you learn most of your fundamental skills for dealing with people.
    "High school is basically about learning to function in society."

    That is only partly true. Band class does not seem to do that. I have nothing against music, but I never learned to play guitar in school. I did that at home.
    Teaching band at school seems to be the only way to make a living playing a tuba or some other instrument relic. Band class is a waste of tax money.
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