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  1. Standard membershavixmir
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    03 Jul '18 22:27
    https://youtu.be/qljfObaUG2s

    The link is about Trump. The debate is not.

    In the link Trevor Noah (a South African comedian who took over the Daily show) makes a very interesting point:
    When does a politician’s responsibilty for the decisions they make stop?

    The case at hand is Sanders (not the colonel seemingly) being booted out of a diner.

    Sanders called it harrasement.
    The restaurant owners said it their political right (much like gays can be refused wedding cakes... in the US).

    But, putting this example aside (SERIOUSLY... FORGET THE FFING EXAMPLE), a politician makes decisions which affect us all.

    But, when it’s off-hours, can he still held accountable in rataurants, theatres, swimming pools, etc.?

    As Trevor points out: if a politician votes against health care, is he no longer responsible when playing in a park with his kids?

    Say a politician votes to ban all privately owned guns in the home. And then a house is robbed and the victims bound and raped. And this politician takes his kids to the beach for an ice-cream.

    Is the owner right in refusing to serve him ice-cream?
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    04 Jul '18 03:51
    restaurant?
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    04 Jul '18 16:34
    Originally posted by @shavixmir
    https://youtu.be/qljfObaUG2s

    The link is about Trump. The debate is not.

    In the link Trevor Noah (a South African comedian who took over the Daily show) makes a very interesting point:
    When does a politician’s responsibilty for the decisions they make stop?

    The case at hand is Sanders (not the colonel seemingly) being booted out of a diner.

    S ...[text shortened]... s kids to the beach for an ice-cream.

    Is the owner right in refusing to serve him ice-cream?
    But, when it’s off-hours, can he still held accountable in restaurants, theatres, swimming pools, etc?


    Possibly, but I honestly think this is a minor issue. With all the restaurants, theatres, swimming pools etc. available in most cities, finding another one in the area wouldn't be a traumatic event. I'd be content to let the courts decide this issue and move on.
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    04 Jul '18 17:35
    I hope that left-wing "zealotry" doesn't stoop to the methods of terror historically employed by the right.

    MLK and Gandhi were correct about maintaining the moral high-ground through non-violent resistance. The left should never aspire to the depths of the right. Because:

    - American right wingers look ridiculous in old photos, hiding behind their silly white sheets.
    - American right wingers seem callous, when ripping young children from their mothers' arms and incarcerating them in cages.
    - American right wingers appear lost, when protesting for the rights of the unborn, all the while refusing sensible controls on weapons responsible for the deaths of hundreds of children in our schools.
    - American right wingers seem incompetent, as they profess any form of morality in the midst of the most corrupt Administration in our nations history.
    And...finally:
    - American right wingers seem evil, when killing Doctors for performing legal procedures chosen by their patients.

    No...if there's a sane lesson in history for the left...it can easily be seen and learned by the current and past behaviors of the right.

    Be correct...don't be right.
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    04 Jul '18 17:45
    Originally posted by @kquinn909
    restaurant?
    Agreeing with POTUS I see. BTW, have you won a game yet by actually beating someone in your rigged time controls? Play 1 day timeout and a few will timeout but that hasn't gotten you very far has it?
    By agreeing with POTUS you join the vast ranks of the Trumpesque brainwashing.
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    04 Jul '18 18:133 edits
    - American right wingers look ridiculous in old photos, hiding behind their silly white sheets.

    (Er....um.....those were democrats who started the KKK and challenged the Civil Rights movement in the South half wit)

    - American right wingers seem callous, when ripping young children from their mothers' arms and incarcerating them in cages.

    (Er.....um......Obama first did it and only Trump signed an Executive Order to stop it)

    - American right wingers appear lost, when protesting for the rights of the unborn, all the while refusing sensible controls on weapons responsible for the deaths of hundreds of children in our schools.

    (Er.....um......over 50 million infants have been terminated and more children die from drugs coming across open borders than children dying from guns, but from the reaction of the far extremist Left you would think it was the exact opposite.)

    - American right wingers seem incompetent, as they profess any form of morality in the midst of the most corrupt Administration in our nations history.

    (Er.....um......the right would love it if we were able to teach children morality, however, the Left wants to only teach them knowledge, not wisdom or morality on how to handle their knowledge. They remove prayer and God from schools and then wonder why children now shoot them up with guns when they never used to do so.)

    And...finally:
    - American right wingers seem evil, when killing Doctors for performing legal procedures chosen by their patients.

    (Er....um.....as the Left ignores abortion doctors like Dr. Gosnell who kills viable infants and harms minority women for decades unchecked, all because they can't stand closing one abortion clinic)


    No...if there's a sane lesson in history for the left...it can easily be seen and learned by the current and past behaviors of the right.

    (Er.....um.....correct. Bur first, get your facts straight)


    Be correct...don't be right.

    (Er....um.......Being right is always better than being wrong)
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    04 Jul '18 19:16
    Originally posted by @shavixmir
    https://youtu.be/qljfObaUG2s

    The link is about Drumpf. The debate is not.

    In the link Trevor Noah (a South African comedian who took over the Daily show) makes a very interesting point:
    When does a politician’s responsibilty for the decisions they make stop?

    The case at hand is Sanders (not the colonel seemingly) being booted out of a diner.

    ...[text shortened]... s kids to the beach for an ice-cream.

    Is the owner right in refusing to serve him ice-cream?
    he is never "responsible" to the point of being harassed. you hold him responsible by not electing him again. by prosecuting him if he breaks the law.
  8. SubscriberWajoma
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    04 Jul '18 20:37
    Originally posted by @zahlanzi
    he is never "responsible" to the point of being harassed. you hold him responsible by not electing him again. by prosecuting him if he breaks the law.
    Refusing to sell someone an ice cream is not harassment

    zahlanzi logic 🙄
  9. SubscriberWajoma
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    04 Jul '18 20:48
    Originally posted by @shavixmir
    https://youtu.be/qljfObaUG2s

    The link is about Trump. The debate is not.

    In the link Trevor Noah (a South African comedian who took over the Daily show) makes a very interesting point:
    When does a politician’s responsibilty for the decisions they make stop?

    The case at hand is Sanders (not the colonel seemingly) being booted out of a diner.

    S ...[text shortened]... s kids to the beach for an ice-cream.

    Is the owner right in refusing to serve him ice-cream?
    Shav, this should be easy (the issue). Draw the line at the initiation of force and threats of force.

    Anyone should be able to refuse to deal with any other person for whatever reason they can dream up. This is a vicey versy, right: customer-vendor/vendor-customer employer-employee/employee-employer.
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    04 Jul '18 22:18
    Originally posted by @wajoma
    Refusing to sell someone an ice cream is not harassment

    zahlanzi logic 🙄
    "Ice" is a non count noun so using "an" is superfluous and bad grammar.
    Of course "an" is optional with the compound noun "ice-cream" depending on meaning.

    Refusing to sell someone ice cream is not harassment
    or
    Refusing to sell someone an ice-cream is not harassment

    Apart from that and the stupidity of the post. Well done. 5/10
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    04 Jul '18 22:32
    I don't generally think it's right to harass people over political differences.

    I also think harassing people makes you look like an idiot on such a level that, even though Sanders here is a victim to some degree, the real victims in an abstract sense are the fools harassing her and anyone associated with them. It's just so declassé and frankly embarrassing that it happens in America.
  12. SubscriberWajoma
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    04 Jul '18 23:091 edit
    Originally posted by @wolfgang59
    "Ice" is a non count noun so using "an" is superfluous and bad grammar.
    Of course "an" is optional with the compound noun "ice-cream" depending on meaning.

    Refusing to sell someone ice cream is not harassment
    or
    Refusing to sell someone an ice-cream is not harassment

    Apart from that and the stupidity of the post. Well done. 5/10
    Did not use a capital Z when addressing dolt boy.

    3/10
  13. Standard membershavixmir
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    05 Jul '18 07:18
    Originally posted by @wolfgang59
    "Ice" is a non count noun so using "an" is superfluous and bad grammar.
    Of course "an" is optional with the compound noun "ice-cream" depending on meaning.

    Refusing to sell someone ice cream is not harassment
    or
    Refusing to sell someone an ice-cream is not harassment

    Apart from that and the stupidity of the post. Well done. 5/10
    Bloody hell, I had to pop back to my post to see if I’d written it correctly!
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