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    08 Feb '12 01:25
    Originally posted by kevcvs57
    And american style capitalism produced a fascist government that napalm'd vietnamese women and children and as we speak operates 'gitmo' so whats yer point.
    Yes, LBJ, "W" and the rest of their progressive ilk have ruined the nation.
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    08 Feb '12 13:49
    Originally posted by whodey
    Yes, LBJ, "W" and the rest of their progressive ilk have ruined the nation.
    The point I am trying to make is that this thread seems to be based on the idea that every despot/dodgy politician is whatever label they give themselves, you end up with the ridiculous conclusion that socialism is to blame for the holocaust, and democracy is responsible for any crimes committed by any one who calls themselves a "democrat". Its all about perspectic, from my point of view the u.s body politic consists of two groups of ultra conservatives vying for the conservative throne of a conservative nation, and any u.s conservatives on this forum can 'chill out' you have nothing to fear.
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    08 Feb '12 14:26
    Originally posted by kevcvs57
    The point I am trying to make is that this thread seems to be based on the idea that every despot/dodgy politician is whatever label they give themselves, you end up with the ridiculous conclusion that socialism is to blame for the holocaust, and democracy is responsible for any crimes committed by any one who calls themselves a "democrat". Its all about p ...[text shortened]... ve nation, and any u.s conservatives on this forum can 'chill out' you have nothing to fear.
    Except the Mormons.
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    08 Feb '12 15:27
    Originally posted by TerrierJack
    Except the Mormons.
    Steady, they gave us the Osmonds.
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    08 Feb '12 15:551 edit
    Originally posted by kevcvs57
    The point I am trying to make is that this thread seems to be based on the idea that every despot/dodgy politician is whatever label they give themselves, you end up with the ridiculous conclusion that socialism is to blame for the holocaust, and democracy is responsible for any crimes committed by any one who calls themselves a "democrat". Its all about p ...[text shortened]... ve nation, and any u.s conservatives on this forum can 'chill out' you have nothing to fear.
    No, the problem are statists who try to exert their power and influence in every crack and crevace they than find whether it be domestic or international. Personally, I think the terms "capitalist" and "socialist" are meaningless labels in that regard.
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    08 Feb '12 16:03
    Originally posted by whodey
    No, the problem are statists who try to exert their power and influence in every crack and crevace they than find whether it be domestic or international. Personally, I think the terms "capitalist" and "socialist" are meaningless labels in that regard.
    Good thing you always use labels in a meaningful way.
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    08 Feb '12 16:26
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    Good thing you always use labels in a meaningful way.
    You are Hobbes to whodey's Calvin.
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    08 Feb '12 16:50
    Originally posted by FMF
    You are Hobbes to whodey's Calvin.
    Funny, I always thought the Dutch were Calvinists!

    He is also of course Hobbes to no1marauder's Locke...
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    08 Feb '12 17:02
    Originally posted by Teinosuke
    Funny, I always thought the Dutch were Calvinists!

    He is also of course Hobbes to no1marauder's Locke...
    I was even born in a village in the Bible Belt. Die-hard Calvinists there!
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    11 Feb '12 10:29
    It appears like all the Candidates except for Ron Paul are a bunch of neocons.
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