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  1. Standard member joneschr
    Some guy
    23 Apr '10 16:44
    There's a new facebook "joke" circulating around:

    http://tinyurl.com/y3tu6tt

    Which reads:

    DEAR LORD, THIS YEAR YOU TOOK MY FAVORITE ACTOR, PATRICK SWAYZIE. YOU TOOK MY FAVORITE ACTRESS, FARAH FAWCETT. YOU TOOK MY FAVORITE SINGER, MICHAEL JACKSON. I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW, MY FAVORITE PRESIDENT IS BARACK OBAMA. AMEN.

    When I read it, I found it tasteless and sad. When I started reading peoples reactions, it changed my reaction quite a bit. I'm now scared. It seems like there are a lot of people that find this very funny, and not only don't see that it's not funny, but are defending it vigorously.

    What was your reaction? Is it funny to you?
  2. Standard member sh76
    Civis Americanus Sum
    23 Apr '10 17:11
    Originally posted by joneschr
    There's a new facebook "joke" circulating around:

    http://tinyurl.com/y3tu6tt

    Which reads:

    DEAR LORD, THIS YEAR YOU TOOK MY FAVORITE ACTOR, PATRICK SWAYZIE. YOU TOOK MY FAVORITE ACTRESS, FARAH FAWCETT. YOU TOOK MY FAVORITE SINGER, MICHAEL JACKSON. I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW, MY FAVORITE PRESIDENT IS BARACK OBAMA. AMEN.

    When I read it, I found ...[text shortened]... ot funny, but are defending it vigorously.

    What was your reaction? Is it funny to you?
    Quite apart from whether it's appropriate, it is slightly funny; and it's completely generic. It could be used with anyone "My favorite friend, doctor, co-worker, etc."

    As for the reactions, people tend to be much more blustery on the internet than they are in real life, especially if they are susceptible to the power of suggestion found in the existing comments.

    I wouldn't worry about it too much.
  3. 23 Apr '10 17:14 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by joneschr
    There's a new facebook "joke" circulating around:

    http://tinyurl.com/y3tu6tt

    Which reads:

    DEAR LORD, THIS YEAR YOU TOOK MY FAVORITE ACTOR, PATRICK SWAYZIE. YOU TOOK MY FAVORITE ACTRESS, FARAH FAWCETT. YOU TOOK MY FAVORITE SINGER, MICHAEL JACKSON. I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW, MY FAVORITE PRESIDENT IS BARACK OBAMA. AMEN.

    When I read it, I found ot funny, but are defending it vigorously.

    What was your reaction? Is it funny to you?
    http://news.google.com/news/search?aq=f&pz=1&cf=all&ned=us&hl=en&q=%22chris+christie+is+my+favorite+governor%22

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,590663,00.html

    Teacher's Union Prays for N.J. Governor's Death

    Friday, April 09, 2010
    By Chris Wallace

    Now some fresh pickings from the Political Grapevine:

    Dear God

    No one in the New Jersey governor's office is laughing at a teachers' union memo, supposedly intended as a joke, that implies a wish for God to kill Republican Governor Chris Christie.

    A New York TV station reports the Bergen County Education Association issued a memo that ends with a prayer, telling God that after the recent deaths of a favorite actor and singer: "I just wanted to let you know— that Chris Christie is my favorite governor."

    Christie is seeking concessions from teachers to cut the state's budget deficit.

    ...

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2010/04/09/2010-04-09_new_jersey_teacher_unions_leave_death_threat_joke_on_gov_chris_christies_door.html

    A group of New Jersey teacher union reps has ripped a page from Tony Soprano's playbook - and issued a ham-handed death threat against Gov. Chris Christie.

    Bergen County Education Association leaders sent a memo to its members this week that included a jokey prayer that seemed to wish death upon the new governor, whose office wasn't laughing Friday.

    "Dear Lord," begins the missive, "this year you have taken away my favorite actor, Patrick Swayze, my favorite actress, Farrah Fawcett, my favorite singer, Michael Jackson, and my favorite salesman, Billy Mays... I just wanted to let you know that Chris Christie is my favorite governor."

    The memo, sent to locals in the county earlier this week, is signed by New Jersey Education Association field reps, including Joe Coppola, president of the Bergen County Education Association.

    Coppola told The Bergen Record that the "prayer" was a joke and was never meant to be made public.

    "Obviously, it's inappropriate," he told the paper. "I would never wish anybody dead."

    ...

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/04/13/christie-undeterred-teachers-union-refusal-local-leader-prayed-death/?test=latestnews

    N.J. Governor Undeterred by Teachers Union Refusal to Fire Leader Who Prayed for His Death

    FOXNews.com

    New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie on Tuesday refused to back down from his demand that teachers start contributing to their health care benefits as the state teachers union declined to take action against a local boss who prayed for the governor's death.

    ...


    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/04/13/christie-undeterred-teachers-union-refusal-local-leader-prayed-death/?test=latestnews

    Updated April 13, 2010

    N.J. Governor Undeterred by Teachers Union Refusal to Fire Leader Who Prayed for His Death

    FOXNews.com

    New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie refused to back down Tuesday from his demand that teachers take a pay freeze and start contributing to their health care benefits as the state teachers union declined to take action against a local boss who prayed for the governor's death.

    Christie, a first-term Republican, told Fox News that he met with New Jersey Education Association Chief Barbara Keshishian on Monday to discuss the schools funding formula and an e-mail sent by Bergen County Education Association President Joe Coppola that mocked the governor.

    In that e-mail to union leaders, Coppola proposed a plan of action to protest Christie's budget proposals, which call for teachers to take a one-year pay freeze and pay 1.5 percent of their salary toward their medical, dental and vision benefits.

    At the end, he included the statement: "Dear Lord, you've taken away my favorite actor Patrick Swayze, my favorite actress Farrah Fawcett, my favorite singer Michael Jackson and my favorite salesman Billy Mayes. I just want you to know that Chris Christie is my favorite governor."

    Keshishian apologized for the memo but refused to oblige Christie's request that Coppola be fired.

    "If a member of my staff ... had said something like that about her, they'd be demanding his resignation. But you know what? They wouldn't have had to wait because I'd have fired him,' Christie said. He said Kershishian responded to the request by saying no.

    "And she left my office, in a huff," he added.

    ...
  4. Standard member yo its me
    watch the acid...
    23 Apr '10 17:23
    That was a lot to read Zeb!

    It's my opnion that jokes are funny when you're in the mood for them to be. Collectivly people can mass lots of infomation as if very intelligent, but like sh says, groups are easily lead.
  5. Standard member spruce112358
    Democracy Advocate
    23 Apr '10 17:25
    It is speech. Speech, in the US, is free.

    It used to be that we did not punish people for speech. That's a Constitutional guarantee, and we should stop ignoring it or "interpreting it away" or whatever else.

    Makes life simpler.
  6. 23 Apr '10 17:53 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by joneschr
    There's a new facebook "joke" circulating around:

    http://tinyurl.com/y3tu6tt

    Which reads:

    DEAR LORD, THIS YEAR YOU TOOK MY FAVORITE ACTOR, PATRICK SWAYZIE. YOU TOOK MY FAVORITE ACTRESS, FARAH FAWCETT. YOU TOOK MY FAVORITE SINGER, MICHAEL JACKSON. I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW, MY FAVORITE PRESIDENT IS BARACK OBAMA. AMEN.

    When I read it, I found ot funny, but are defending it vigorously.

    What was your reaction? Is it funny to you?
    My favourite woman is my ex wife !!
  7. 24 Apr '10 10:40
    I like some racist jokes, even though racists are morons. They can still be good jokes. Don't get so worked up over this.
  8. 24 Apr '10 11:41
    Originally posted by joneschr
    There's a new facebook "joke" circulating around:

    http://tinyurl.com/y3tu6tt

    Which reads:

    DEAR LORD, THIS YEAR YOU TOOK MY FAVORITE ACTOR, PATRICK SWAYZIE. YOU TOOK MY FAVORITE ACTRESS, FARAH FAWCETT. YOU TOOK MY FAVORITE SINGER, MICHAEL JACKSON. I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW, MY FAVORITE PRESIDENT IS BARACK OBAMA. AMEN.

    When I read it, I found ...[text shortened]... ot funny, but are defending it vigorously.

    What was your reaction? Is it funny to you?
    Ha, ha, ha, ha...er..um...no, its not funny in the least. These people make me sick!!
  9. Standard member Goatboysrevenge
    Justice 4 the 96
    24 Apr '10 13:10
    I think some people take themselves too seriously, all it is is a generic 'insert pet-hate person' as punchline gag. And to be honest, it's not even that funny as a joke anyway...
  10. Subscriber FMF
    a.k.a. John W Booth
    25 Apr '10 05:52 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by sh76
    people tend to be much more blustery on the internet than they are in real life, especially if they are susceptible to the power of suggestion found in the existing comments.
    Of course, you are right.

    There's an item at http://www.freerepublic.com which talks about - after Reagan and his jell beans, and Clinton and his McDonalds - how Barack Obama's weakness is pie.

    One response:

    Really!!! What was Stalin’s weak spot??? Or Mao’s??? Or Pol Pot’s??? Let’s not humanize this monster.

    It's interesting to try and discern what the intention of the writer was when he/she typed this and put it on a forum for others to see.

    Was it...

    (a) a serious political comment?

    (b) a kind of self-deprecating joke, sending up one's own far-right fulmination?

    (c) a joke satirizing Obama's perceived "Leftism"?

    (d) funny?

    (e) not funny?

    (f) perhaps written by an 'imposter' or provocateur?
  11. 25 Apr '10 12:29
    Originally posted by joneschr
    There's a new facebook "joke" circulating around:

    http://tinyurl.com/y3tu6tt

    Which reads:

    DEAR LORD, THIS YEAR YOU TOOK MY FAVORITE ACTOR, PATRICK SWAYZIE. YOU TOOK MY FAVORITE ACTRESS, FARAH FAWCETT. YOU TOOK MY FAVORITE SINGER, MICHAEL JACKSON. I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW, MY FAVORITE PRESIDENT IS BARACK OBAMA. AMEN.

    When I read it, I found ...[text shortened]... ot funny, but are defending it vigorously.

    What was your reaction? Is it funny to you?
    Pathetic.
  12. Standard member yo its me
    watch the acid...
    25 Apr '10 12:58
    Originally posted by FMF
    Of course, you are right.

    There's an item at http://www.freerepublic.com which talks about - after Reagan and his jell beans, and Clinton and his McDonalds - how Barack Obama's weakness is pie.

    One response:

    [b]Really!!! What was Stalin’s weak spot??? Or Mao’s??? Or Pol Pot’s??? Let’s not humanize this monster.


    It's interesting to try and discern ...[text shortened]...

    (d) funny?

    (e) not funny?

    (f) perhaps written by an 'imposter' or provocateur?[/b]
    An internet knee jurk comment that could have any meaning, like you say. They might not be refering to Obama. I've noticed that a lot over the internet. It's closer here, in the chess site though becasue uids stick arround for longer and comments are collected and can be read. There's less of those kind of comments, people think before the post occasioanlly here it's better.
  13. 26 Apr '10 20:33
    Originally posted by FMF
    Of course, you are right.

    There's an item at http://www.freerepublic.com which talks about - after Reagan and his jell beans, and Clinton and his McDonalds - how Barack Obama's weakness is pie.

    One response:

    [b]Really!!! What was Stalin’s weak spot??? Or Mao’s??? Or Pol Pot’s??? Let’s not humanize this monster.


    It's interesting to try and discern ...[text shortened]...

    (d) funny?

    (e) not funny?

    (f) perhaps written by an 'imposter' or provocateur?[/b]
    LOL. So true.

    I pray the answer is f.