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    10 Feb '16 13:311 edit
    http://www.towleroad.com/2016/02/marco-rubio-gay/

    Marco Rubio’s alleged gay past is the subject of a hit piece that’s being widely circulated on Facebook that contains a lot of innuendo and some provocative photos allegedly of the Florida senator.

    The post, by columnist Wayne Madsen published at Public Intelligence Blog, claims that “Marco Rubio was, as a high school and college student, known to be a very extroverted homosexual in both South Beach in Miami, a popular gay area, and at college in Gainesville, Florida.”

    The piece contains an alleged photo of Rubio (below) in 1989 “dancing and singing in a South Miami troupe that combined the Chippendales with The Village People.”


    Another photo shows a gay foam party at the ’90s South Beach gay nightclub Warsaw Ballroom, and show’s a man’s profile which Madsen says “is believed to be” Rubio. The face is obscured, so it really could be anybody.

    Writes Madsen:

    In order to prepare for the University of Florida, Rubio attended Santa Fe Community College in Gainesville. Republican sources have told WMR that Rubio, Barrios, and two other students shared a townhouse in Gainesville that was known locally as a “coke house,” where cocaine was readily available, as were almost non-stop parties in what amounted to an off-campus gay frat house. In 1987, Rubio’s brother-in-law, Orlando Cicilia, was busted by the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) for his role as a key figure in a cocaine smuggling ring in south Florida.

    After graduating from the University of Florida, Rubio attended the University of Miami Law School. In 1995, Rubio claims he met his wife, Miami Dolphins cheerleader Jeanette Dousdebes at a “foam party” in South Beach. There is one thing wrong with Rubio’s story: foam parties in South Beach were almost exclusively gay events held at gay clubs like “Warsaw Ballroom” and “Amnesia,” the latter name befitting some of Rubio’s memories of his time in Miami.
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    There is one piece of Madsen’s story that is accurate: “In 1989, a year before Rubio was arrested with his friend Angel Barrios and another unidentified male friend in Alice Wainwright Park in south Miami, ostensibly for drinking beer in a car after closing time in a park known as a pickup locale for gays.”

    The Miami New Times wrote about this incident last week, though Barrios, who was linked to Miami’s most infamous gay porn case, denies that both he and Rubio are gay:

    Decades after his legal run-in with Rubio, Barrios was associated with perhaps the most notorious gay porn ring in Miami history, an Edgewater house full of models with names like “Khali Kreme” and “Sincere Luv” who had sex all day in front of dozens of webcams. Couple that with the fact that the park where Rubio was arrested was a well-known gay cruising spot and lurid rumors — with no basis in documented fact — have blown up all this week on the internet, eagerly stoked by Donald Trump supporters casting Rubio as a closeted homosexual. Right-wing conspiracy monger Alex Jones devoted a five-minute segment to the allegations yesterday, while posts on the claims have been heavily upvoted on a Reddit page for Trump supporters.

    “I have nothing against gay people, but this is just so far from the truth,” says Barrios, who laughs out loud at the idea of having had a sexual relationship with Rubio. “I have kids, and now they’re reading all this garbage online. It’s insane.”

    In any case, it appears that the right has gone full throttle behind-the-scenes on bringing down Rubio as a closeted gay, with more than just cha-cha heels.
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    10 Feb '16 13:31
    Originally posted by whodey
    http://www.towleroad.com/2016/02/marco-rubio-gay/
    Why does it matter?
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    10 Feb '16 13:371 edit
    Originally posted by quackquack
    Why does it matter?
    Good question, what does it matter?

    Society has reached a point to where most have no morality when it comes to sexual practices unless minors are involved. In fact, many here are proponents of sex with animals being legal. But more to your point, Rubio has taken on Evangelicals who do think it matters and has packaged himself more to their liking. Does this matter?

    Former President Bill Clinton also has an interesting sexual history and has been accused of sexual assault on more than one occasion. Does this sort of history matter? It seems to me that because of this history he was targeted by his political opponents and nearly forced out of office for lying about it.

    So the question begs, if this sort of activity does not matter, why hide it?
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    10 Feb '16 13:41
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/19/marco-rubio-gay-rights_n_7096180.html

    In this article Rubio has taken some strange positions on the matter. First he says that being gay is not a choice. If so, then he is either living a lie or bisexual if the allegations are true. He then goes on to say that even though he does not think it is a choice, he thinks marriage should only be between a man and a woman. The issue is further clouded by the admission that he attended a gay marriage, even thought he thought the whole affair was wrong.

    Rubio is all over the place with this issue.
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    10 Feb '16 14:21
    Originally posted by whodey
    http://www.towleroad.com/2016/02/marco-rubio-gay/

    Marco Rubio’s alleged gay past is the subject of a hit piece that’s being widely circulated on Facebook that contains a lot of innuendo and some provocative photos allegedly of the Florida senator.

    The post, by columnist Wayne Madsen published at Public Intelligence Blog, claims that “Marco Rubio was, as ...[text shortened]... e behind-the-scenes on bringing down Rubio as a closeted gay, with more than just cha-cha heels.
    why does it matter
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    10 Feb '16 14:21
    Originally posted by whodey
    Good question, what does it matter?

    Society has reached a point to where most have no morality when it comes to sexual practices unless minors are involved. In fact, many here are proponents of sex with animals being legal. But more to your point, Rubio has taken on Evangelicals who do think it matters and has packaged himself more to their liking. Does ...[text shortened]... lying about it.

    So the question begs, if this sort of activity does not matter, why hide it?
    why hide it?

    because nobody asks because it doesn't matter.
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    10 Feb '16 15:52
    Originally posted by Zahlanzi
    why does it matter
    Why does it matter? It matters because our representatives have the power to determine what legal rights people have based upon their sexuality, or lack thereof.

    Why should we care what Joe Shmoe thinks of gay sex? No one, unless they have the power to give certain people perks for such behavior.

    It's just another way to divide and conquer the American people.
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    10 Feb '16 16:04
    Originally posted by whodey
    http://www.towleroad.com/2016/02/marco-rubio-gay/

    Marco Rubio’s alleged gay past is the subject of a hit piece that’s being widely circulated on Facebook that contains a lot of innuendo and some provocative photos allegedly of the Florida senator.

    The post, by columnist Wayne Madsen published at Public Intelligence Blog, claims that “Marco Rubio was, as ...[text shortened]... e behind-the-scenes on bringing down Rubio as a closeted gay, with more than just cha-cha heels.
    Whodey - Have you heard the term "Tabloid Mentality?" You are afflicted. Please seek professional help! 🙄
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    10 Feb '16 16:51
    Originally posted by bill718
    Whodey - Have you heard the term "Tabloid Mentality?" You are afflicted. Please seek professional help! 🙄
    Do we want political leaders to tell us what their views on such matters are? Do we want Presidents calling them up and congratulating citizens once they declare what their sexual preferences are?

    It is rumored that Obama himself was engaged in similar activity. If so, his unwillingness to share that says what exactly? It shows he is willing to hide who he is in order to obtain votes. This is the very nature of our political system, it is hiding who and what you are to win elections and is why these figures are hated accordingly
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    10 Feb '16 16:56
    Originally posted by whodey
    Why does it matter? It matters because our representatives have the power to determine what legal rights people have based upon their sexuality, or lack thereof.

    Why should we care what Joe Shmoe thinks of gay sex? No one, unless they have the power to give certain people perks for such behavior.

    It's just another way to divide and conquer the American people.
    "It matters because our representatives have the power to determine what legal rights people have based upon their sexuality"

    kind of like how conservatives have been doing until now?


    "unless they have the power to give certain people perks for such behavior. "
    you mean equal rights with the rest of us?
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    10 Feb '16 17:341 edit
    Originally posted by Zahlanzi
    "It matters because our representatives have the power to determine what legal rights people have based upon their sexuality"

    kind of like how conservatives have been doing until now?


    "unless they have the power to give certain people perks for such behavior. "
    you mean equal rights with the rest of us?
    The primary reason that government seems to have been so interested in the first place, in regards to marriage, was to restrict intermarriage among races in the US

    http://civilliberty.about.com/od/raceequalopportunity/tp/Interracial-Marriage-Laws-History-Timeline.htm

    Now I'm sure you will label all these people "conservatives", whatever.

    Today government is championing gay marriage through recent legislation, while trampling on the rights of such people are polygamists etc.

    Government continues to treat us as lab rats as they promote various social experiments to see which rat finds the cheese in the maze first.
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    10 Feb '16 17:37
    Originally posted by whodey
    Why does it matter? It matters because our representatives have the power to determine what legal rights people have based upon their sexuality, or lack thereof.

    Why should we care what Joe Shmoe thinks of gay sex? No one, unless they have the power to give certain people perks for such behavior.

    It's just another way to divide and conquer the American people.
    What "perks" do you imagine Marco Rubio might grant towards people with a certain sexual orientation, if it were true that he is gay? In modern times we have had several openly gay political leaders in the western world (e.g. di Rupo) and they have invariably NOT granted any special rights for gays.
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    10 Feb '16 19:45
    Originally posted by whodey
    Good question, what does it matter?

    Society has reached a point to where most have no morality when it comes to sexual practices unless minors are involved. In fact, many here are proponents of sex with animals being legal. But more to your point, Rubio has taken on Evangelicals who do think it matters and has packaged himself more to their liking. Does ...[text shortened]... lying about it.

    So the question begs, if this sort of activity does not matter, why hide it?
    Many here are proponents of sex with animals being legal? Who are these 'many'?
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    10 Feb '16 19:53
    Originally posted by Zahlanzi
    why does it matter
    The reality is that it shouldn't, but you can bet your last dollar that in the general Democratic operatives will make it an issue, true or not.

    For some religious voters, it could alter their vote.
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    10 Feb '16 20:01
    Originally posted by normbenign
    The reality is that it shouldn't, but you can bet your last dollar that in the general Democratic operatives will make it an issue, true or not.

    For some religious voters, it could alter their vote.
    As you well know, homophobia isn't restricted to "religious voters."
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