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  1. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    Poor Filipov :,(
    11 Jan '15 19:30
    They are trying to replicate the beginnings of the USA.

    The Founders were slaveowners don't forget...
  2. 11 Jan '15 19:43
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    They are trying to replicate the beginnings of the USA.

    The Founders were slaveowners don't forget...
    Yeah man, Christians the Muslims the same!

    Founding fathers and Muslims the same!

    How many people do you think will buy your delusion?
  3. 11 Jan '15 20:08 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    They are trying to replicate the beginnings of the USA.

    The Founders were slaveowners don't forget...
    Another apt comparison is to Christendom. "In its historical sense, the term [Christendom] usually refers to the medieval and early modern period, during which the Christian world represented a geopolitical power juxtaposed with both paganism and especially the military threat of the Muslim world. In the more limited and traditional sense of the word, it refers to the sum total of nations in which the Catholic Church is the established religion of the state, or which have ecclesiastical concordats with the Holy See." - Wikipedia

    This would be achieved by setting up a state that is partially territorial, (like Papal States) where the territory is already Muslim-dominated (dissolving the Sykes-Picot boundaries) and a partially international borderless community of worldwide Muslims, all with a heirarchy under a caliph, rather like the papal RCC at its peak before protestantism, Henry 8 and other erosions. Ultimately, pressure would be for world domination.
  4. 11 Jan '15 20:40
    Nice to know that George Washington and the other founding fathers were Puritans.
  5. 11 Jan '15 21:30
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    They are trying to replicate the beginnings of the USA.

    The Founders were slaveowners don't forget...
    One thing is for sure, Muslims are to Europeans as Europeans were to the American Indian.

    They have no interest in assimilation.
  6. Standard member finnegan
    GENS UNA SUMUS
    11 Jan '15 21:36
    Originally posted by whodey
    One thing is for sure, Muslims are to Europeans as Europeans were to the American Indian.

    They have no interest in assimilation.
    Like the Europeans and Americans occupying land in Israel and the Palestinian West Bank have no interest in assimilating with their Palestinian neighbours, so they are pushing them out as refugees in a process of colonisation and ethnic cleansing?

    One thing for sure - Americans are interfering violently throughout the region on a massive scale and yet demonstrate such profound ignorance about the region it is embarrassing.
  7. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    Poor Filipov :,(
    11 Jan '15 21:56
    http://www.thefreedomtrail.org/educational-resources/article-rise-and-fall-of-slave-trade-part1.shtml
  8. 11 Jan '15 22:07
    Originally posted by finnegan
    Like the Europeans and Americans occupying land in Israel and the Palestinian West Bank have no interest in assimilating with their Palestinian neighbours, so they are pushing them out as refugees in a process of colonisation and ethnic cleansing?

    One thing for sure - Americans are interfering violently throughout the region on a massive scale and yet demonstrate such profound ignorance about the region it is embarrassing.
    Israelis and Palestinians have no interest in assimilating with each other, just like Muslims in Europe have no interest in assiilating with European infidels.

    So in both instances, it comes down to who will conquer the other, just like Europeans conquered the American Indian.

    Shrug.
  9. 11 Jan '15 22:11
    Originally posted by whodey to AThousandYoung
    One thing is for sure, Muslims are to Europeans as Europeans were to the American Indian.

    They have no interest in assimilation.
    "They (Muslims) have no interest in assimilation."
    --Whodey

    I knew a Francophone academic of Muslim Arab heritage who loved reading
    scholarly works in French and discussing them in quite animated French.
    The French language is what many Africans and Asians who grew up in
    former French colonial possessions still have in common.
  10. 11 Jan '15 22:41
    Originally posted by Duchess64
    "They (Muslims) have no interest in assimilation."
    --Whodey

    I knew a Francophone academic of Muslim Arab heritage who loved reading
    scholarly works in French and discussing them in quite animated French.
    The French language is what many Africans and Asians who grew up in
    former French colonial possessions still have in common.
    Then why do they have "no go zones" in France?

    Why is it in the states Muslims all seem to go to Muslims schools?

    Why would a follower of Mo want to assimilate with infidels?

    Discussing scholarly works is hardly assimilating.
  11. 11 Jan '15 22:50 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by whodey
    Then why do they have "no go zones" in France?
    Why is it in the states Muslims all seem to go to Muslims schools?
    Why would a follower of Mo want to assimilate with infidels?
    Discussing scholarly works is hardly assimilating.
    Most of what Whodey believes about Muslims and Islam is false.
    But Whodey's *willful ignorance* seems invincible, as always.

    *If* Whodey can get past--which I doubt--his fanatical prejudices, he
    might try meeting some diverse real Muslims. He might be shocked to
    discover that many real Muslims don't conform to his stereotypes of them.
  12. 11 Jan '15 22:50
    Originally posted by whodey
    Then why do they have "no go zones" in France?

    Why is it in the states Muslims all seem to go to Muslims schools?

    Why would a follower of Mo want to assimilate with infidels?

    Discussing scholarly works is hardly assimilating.
    Because all Muslims have really assimilated as D suggests.
  13. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    Poor Filipov :,(
    11 Jan '15 23:22
    Originally posted by whodey
    Then why do they have "no go zones" in France?

    Why is it in the states Muslims all seem to go to Muslims schools?

    Why would a follower of Mo want to assimilate with infidels?

    Discussing scholarly works is hardly assimilating.
    Why did the French invent Savate?
  14. Subscriber Kewpie
    since 1-Feb-07
    12 Jan '15 04:50
    http://www.history.com/topics/crusades

    What goes around comes around.
  15. Standard member wolfgang59
    Infidel
    12 Jan '15 06:21
    Originally posted by whodey
    ..., just like Muslims in Europe have no interest in assiilating with European infidels.

    Have you ever travelled farther than your own back yard?