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  1. Zugzwang
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    21 Jul '16 00:392 edits
    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jul/20/jill-harth-donald-trump-allegations-narcissist

    "Jill Harth's Allegations Against Trump Paint a Picture of an Entitled Narcissist:
    After 20 years of loyal silence, a woman who claims Trump assaulted her
    drew the line at being publicly called a liar. We should listen to her, before it's too late."
    --Jessica Valenti (20 July 2016)

    "Harth's allegations--that Trump made repeated unwanted sexual advances,
    that he groped her and, on one occasion, pulled her into a bedroom,
    pushed her against a wall and touched her 'private parts'--tell a familiar
    story of a man believing he should have anything he wants."
    --Jessica Valenti

    'He (Donald Trump) pushed me up against the wall and had his hands all over me and
    tried to get up my dress again....It was a shocking thing for him to do this because he
    knew I was with George (Houraney, her romantic partner at that time)."
    --Jill Harth (quoted in another recent article at the 'Guardian' )

    "He (Donald Trump) was aggressive. And he has a sense of entitlement
    and he thinks everybody's in love with him, every woman."
    --Jill Harth

    "He (Donald Trump) appears to think he's entitled to women's bodies: whether
    to grope them, judge them or legislate them."
    --Jessica Valenti
  2. Unknown Territories
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    21 Jul '16 01:31
    Originally posted by Duchess64
    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jul/20/jill-harth-donald-trump-allegations-narcissist

    "Jill Harth's Allegations Against Trump Paint a Picture of an Entitled Narcissist:
    After 20 years of loyal silence, a woman who claims Trump assaulted her
    drew the line at being publicly called a liar. We should listen to her, before it's too late."
    ...[text shortened]... d to women's bodies: whether
    to grope them, judge them or legislate them."
    --Jessica Valenti
    That's quite a line up of testimony you have there.
    One woman.
    Oops!
    Make that two women.
    One making a claim and another pointing to the first who is making the claim.
    Were you sounding the alarm when Slick Willy was in town, fresh off AirOrgy?
    Or were those women not to be trusted?
    Your misogyny smells like really, really bad fish.
  3. SubscriberSuzianne
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    21 Jul '16 01:54
    Originally posted by FreakyKBH
    That's quite a line up of testimony you have there.
    One woman.
    Oops!
    Make that two women.
    One making a claim and another pointing to the first who is making the claim.
    Were you sounding the alarm when Slick Willy was in town, fresh off AirOrgy?
    Or were those women not to be trusted?
    Your misogyny smells like really, really bad fish.
    While yours just smells like desperation.
  4. Unknown Territories
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    21 Jul '16 03:03
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    While yours just smells like desperation.
    And yours: like more dead fish.

    Ah, Suzianne.
    Don't you cry for me.
    For I come from Alabama
    With a banjo on my knee.
  5. Standard memberDeepThought
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    21 Jul '16 09:04
    Originally posted by FreakyKBH
    That's quite a line up of testimony you have there.
    One woman.
    Oops!
    Make that two women.
    One making a claim and another pointing to the first who is making the claim.
    Were you sounding the alarm when Slick Willy was in town, fresh off AirOrgy?
    Or were those women not to be trusted?
    Your misogyny smells like really, really bad fish.
    You're a bit of an unpleasant sexist, aren't you.
  6. Standard memberlemon lime
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    21 Jul '16 18:221 edit
    Oh good grief... a new low has been reached.
    This thread could have been titled:

    Women who lift lines from Harlequin romance novels, and the pleasant men who love them.
  7. Standard memberlemon lime
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    21 Jul '16 22:01
    Originally posted by lemon lime
    Oh good grief... a new low has been reached.
    This thread could have been titled:

    [b]Women who lift lines from Harlequin romance novels, and the pleasant men who love them.
    [/b]
    I apologize to Harlequin for suggesting their fine publication has or has ever had anything to do with or can in anyway be linked to baseless smut filled allegations.
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    21 Jul '16 23:201 edit
    Originally posted by DeepThought
    You're a bit of an unpleasant sexist, aren't you.
    He does not like Hillary so I guess that is a yes.

    Now all we need is for the Dims to start a "women are people too" movement so they can start shooting white sexist males dead in the streets.

    That'll show'em! 😵
  9. Unknown Territories
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    21 Jul '16 23:47
    Originally posted by DeepThought
    You're a bit of an unpleasant sexist, aren't you.
    How dare you!
    I'm the most pleasant sexist in my periphery.
    Hell, even fat chicks think I'm pretty effing swag.
  10. SubscriberSuzianne
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    22 Jul '16 02:04
    Originally posted by lemon lime
    I apologize to Harlequin for suggesting their fine publication has or has ever had anything to do with or can in anyway be linked to baseless smut filled allegations.
    "Blaming the victim" is so yesterday.

    If only.
  11. Unknown Territories
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    22 Jul '16 02:34
    Originally posted by FreakyKBH
    How dare you!
    I'm the most pleasant sexist in my periphery.
    Hell, even fat chicks think I'm pretty effing swag.
    What?!?
    Only THREE measly thumbs down??
    Where are this site's social justice warriors when they are so desperately needed?
    Calling all SJW's!
    We need you more than a staged event needs its crisis actors!
    We need you more than the Douche$$™ needs a pallet of organic, range-free cat food.
    We just need you, STAT!
    And bring your thumbs!!
  12. Standard memberlemon lime
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    22 Jul '16 04:12
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    "Blaming the victim" is so yesterday.

    If only.
    False and unsubstantiated accusations come from predators.
    Predators are not victims, and a predator posing as a victim is not a victim.
  13. SubscriberSuzianne
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    22 Jul '16 04:35
    Originally posted by lemon lime
    False and unsubstantiated accusations come from predators.
    Predators are not victims, and a predator posing as a victim is not a victim.
    Again, if your premise fails, your argument fails.

    Her accusation is not false. It clearly passes the 'smell' test, because A) her suit is not asking for money, and B) she only came forward with this now in light of Trump's recent statememt (which you seem to have swallowed hook, line and sinker) that "all these women are lying". She insists thst she's not lying and only wants Trump to withdraw this statement. That's all. She clearly does not rise to Trump's level of "predator".
  14. SubscriberSuzianne
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    22 Jul '16 04:40
    Originally posted by FreakyKBH
    What?!?
    Only [b] THREE
    measly thumbs down??
    Where are this site's social justice warriors when they are so desperately needed?
    Calling all SJW's!
    We need you more than a staged event needs its crisis actors!
    We need you more than the Douche$$™ needs a pallet of organic, range-free cat food.
    We just need you, STAT!
    And bring your thumbs!![/b]
    Engaging with you is far more unpleasant than ignoring you. I'm risking you being unpleasant yet again just so that I could clear that up for you. You're welcome.
  15. Standard memberKellyJay
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    22 Jul '16 04:45
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    Again, if your premise fails, your argument fails.

    Her accusation is not false. It clearly passes the 'smell' test, because A) her suit is not asking for money, and B) she only came forward with this now in light of Trump's recent statememt (which you seem to have swallowed hook, line and sinker) that "all these women are lying". She insists thst she's ...[text shortened]... withdraw this statement. That's all. She clearly does not rise to Trump's level of "predator".
    Have you ever wondered why it is that Herman Cain had women accuse him of sexual
    advances after he started running, how Clarence Thomas had someone accuse him after
    he was about to be put on the Supreme Court. Isn't it just convenient that this seems to
    happen if for someone who may end up being able to make a run for a powerful office?

    I do think the timing is suspect, that doesn't mean it isn't true, but I'm not going to just
    believe it because someone is accused. When Bill Clinton was accused some women
    were out to destroy those who claimed he abused them, why was that?
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