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    22 Jun '18 01:451 edit
    https://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/judicial-watch-obtains-irs-documents-revealing-mccains-subcommittee-staff-director-urged-irs-to-engage-in-financially-ruinous-targeting/?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=press%20release

    (Washington, DC) – Judicial Watch today released newly obtained internal IRS documents, including material revealing that Sen. John McCain’s former staff director and chief counsel on the Senate Homeland Security Permanent Subcommittee, Henry Kerner, urged top IRS officials, including then-director of exempt organizations Lois Lerner, to “audit so many that it becomes financially ruinous.” Kerner was appointed by President Trump as Special Counsel for the United States Office of Special Counsel.

    The explosive exchange was contained in notes taken by IRS employees at an April 30, 2013, meeting between Kerner, Lerner, and other high-ranking IRS officials. Just ten days following the meeting, former IRS director of exempt organizations Lois Lerner admitted that the IRS had a policy of improperly and deliberately delaying applications for tax-exempt status from conservative non-profit groups.

    Lerner and other IRS officials met with select top staffers from the Senate Governmental Affairs Committee in a “marathon” meeting to discuss concerns raised by both Sen. Carl Levin (D-MI) and Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) that the IRS was not reining in political advocacy groups in response to the Supreme Court’s Citizens United decision. Senator McCain had been the chief sponsor of the McCain-Feingold Act and called the Citizens United decision, which overturned portions of the Act, one of the “worst decisions I have ever seen.”

    In the full notes of an April 30 meeting, McCain’s high-ranking staffer Kerner recommends harassing non-profit groups until they are unable to continue operating. Kerner tells Lerner, Steve Miller, then chief of staff to IRS commissioner, Nikole Flax, and other IRS officials, “Maybe the solution is to audit so many that it is financially ruinous.” In response, Lerner responded that “it is her job to oversee it all:”

    Henry Kerner asked how to get to the abuse of organizations claiming section 501 (c)(4) but designed to be primarily political. Lois Lerner said the system works, but not in real time. Henry Kerner noted that these organizations don’t disclose donors. Lois Lerner said that if they don’t meet the requirements, we can come in and revoke, but it doesn’t happen timely. Nan Marks said if the concern is that organizations engaging in this activity don’t disclose donors, then the system doesn’t work. Henry Kerner said that maybe the solution is to audit so many that it is financially ruinous. Nikole noted that we have budget constraints. Elise Bean suggested using the list of organizations that made independent expenditures. Lois Lerner said that it is her job to oversee it all, not just political campaign activity.

    Judicial Watch previously reported on the 2013 meeting. Senator McCain then issued a statement decrying “false reports claiming that his office was somehow involved in IRS targeting of conservative groups.” The IRS previously blacked out the notes of the meeting but Judicial Watch found the notes among subsequent documents released by the agency.

    Judicial Watch separately uncovered that Lerner was under significant pressure from both Democrats in Congress and the Obama DOJ and FBI to prosecute and jail the groups the IRS was already improperly targeting. In discussing pressure from Senator Sheldon Whitehouse (Democrat-Rhode Island) to prosecute these “political groups,” Lerner admitted, “it is ALL about 501(c)(4) orgs and political activity.”

    The April 30, 2013 meeting came just under two weeks prior to Lerner’s admission during an ABA meeting that the IRS had “inappropriately” targeted conservative groups. In her May 2013 answer to a planted question, in which she admitted to the “absolutely incorrect, insensitive, and inappropriate” targeting of Tea Party and conservative groups, Lerner suggested the IRS targeting occurred due to an “uptick” in 501 (c)(4) applications to the IRS but in actuality, there had been a decrease in such applications in 2010.

    On May 14, 2013, a report by Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration revealed: “Early in Calendar Year 2010, the IRS began using inappropriate criteria to identify organizations applying for tax-exempt status” (e.g., lists of past and future donors). The illegal IRS reviews continued “for more than 18 months” and “delayed processing of targeted groups’ applications” in advance of the 2012 presidential election.

    All these documents were forced out of the IRS as a result of an October 2013 Judicial Watch Freedom of Information (FOIA) lawsuit filed against the IRS after it failed to respond adequately to four FOIA requests sent in May 2013 (Judicial Watch, Inc. v. Internal Revenue Service (No. 1:13-cv-01559)). Judicial Watch is seeking:
    •All records related to the number of applications received or related to communications between the IRS and members of the U.S. House of Representatives or the U.S. Senate regarding the review process for organizations applying for tax exempt status under 501(c)(4);
    •All records concerning communications between the IRS and the Executive Branch or any other government agency regarding the review process for organizations applying for tax exempt status under 501(c)(4);
    •Copies of any questionnaires and all records related to the preparation of questionnaires sent to organizations applying for 501(c)(4) tax exempt status.
    •All records related to Lois Lerner’s communication with other IRS employees, as well as government or private entity outside the IRS regarding the review and approval process for 501 (c)(4) applicant organizations.

    “The Obama IRS scandal is bipartisan – McCain and Democrats who wanted to regulate political speech lost at the Supreme Court, so they sought to use the IRS to harass innocent Americans,” said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton. “The Obama IRS scandal is not over – as Judicial Watch continues to uncover smoking gun documents that raise questions about how the Obama administration weaponized the IRS, the FEC, FBI, and DOJ to target the First Amendment rights of Americans.”

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  2. SubscriberSuzianne
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    22 Jun '18 01:56
    Speaking of the IRS, where are Trump's tax returns?
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    22 Jun '18 02:07
    Originally posted by @suzianne
    Speaking of the IRS, where are Trump's tax returns?
    With the IRS.

    They should be able to do their jobs without our help.
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    22 Jun '18 04:04
    Originally posted by @suzianne
    Speaking of the IRS, where are Trump's tax returns?
    Read Melania's shirt. 😛
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    22 Jun '18 04:12
    Originally posted by @whodey
    With the IRS.

    They should be able to do their jobs without our help.
    Do you think "yes-man" Steve Mnuchin will release them?

    Hahahahaha... that will happen when Hell freezes over.
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    22 Jun '18 04:14
    Originally posted by @tom-wolsey
    Read Melania's shirt. 😛
    Heck of a choice to wear to go see detainees, don't you think?
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    22 Jun '18 04:381 edit
    Originally posted by @suzianne
    Heck of a choice to wear to go see detainees, don't you think?
    Jingoistic ignorant lying troll Suzianne doesn't consider that Melania is an immigrant and her first language is not English. Suzianne selfishly assumes that everyone must have English as their first language and fully understand the subtle nuances of American humor like the words on Melania's t-shirt. Perhaps Suzianne at this very moment is wishing everyone who doesn't perfectly understand English and American humor would be rounded up at gunpoint and forced to leave her "shining city on a hill."
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    22 Jun '18 06:24
    Originally posted by @tom-wolsey
    Jingoistic ignorant lying troll Suzianne doesn't consider that Melania is an immigrant and her first language is not English. Suzianne selfishly assumes that everyone must have English as their first language and fully understand the subtle nuances of American humor like the words on Melania's t-shirt. Perhaps Suzianne at this very moment is wishing ev ...[text shortened]... American humor would be rounded up at gunpoint and forced to leave her "shining city on a hill."
    Not bad! 😛
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    22 Jun '18 06:31
    Originally posted by @suzianne
    Heck of a choice to wear to go see detainees, don't you think?
    Just saying what they believe.
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    22 Jun '18 06:32
    Originally posted by @tom-wolsey
    Jingoistic ignorant lying troll Suzianne doesn't consider that Melania is an immigrant and her first language is not English. Suzianne selfishly assumes that everyone must have English as their first language and fully understand the subtle nuances of American humor like the words on Melania's t-shirt. Perhaps Suzianne at this very moment is wishing ev ...[text shortened]... American humor would be rounded up at gunpoint and forced to leave her "shining city on a hill."
    Taking grammar lessons from D64 I see.
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    22 Jun '18 08:18
    Originally posted by @sonhouse to Tom Wolsey
    Taking grammar lessons from D64 I see.
    Sonhouse, I have no reason to doubt your competence in your technical field.
    Outside it, your reading comprehension often is poor, and you may
    lack the ability to follow the many nuances of my posts.
    So why do you read them?

    You seem to be consumed with your extremely partisan battles in US politics
    or against trolls like FreakyKBH, who's far from being only the lying
    abusive troll at RHP.

    Tim Wolsey's clearly generally an obnoxious troll.
    He's a white American, however, and so, like Donald Trump, he
    belongs to your tribe in the extremely racially conscious USA.
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    22 Jun '18 10:00
    Originally posted by @duchess64
    Sonhouse, I have no reason to doubt your competence in your technical field.
    Outside it, your reading comprehension often is poor, and you may
    lack the ability to follow the many nuances of my posts.
    So why do you read them?

    You seem to be consumed with your extremely partisan battles in US politics
    or against trolls like FreakyKBH, who's far from ...[text shortened]... r, and so, like Donald Trump, he
    belongs to your tribe in the extremely racially conscious USA.
    Tim Wolsey agreed with you in many posts about racism towards Asian-Americans, and you subsequently complimented him on his ability to see what other white Americans "refused to see".

    The very millisecond he disagrees with you, you turn on him like a rattlesnake in the grass, just as you have many others in this forum (sonhouse comes to mind, as well as myself) despite previously agreeing with them and complimenting them on their "forward-thinking" when they spoke well of you.

    This "rubber-banding" of your treatment of them is always most evident towards white Americans. But that isn't even my main point here. I myself believe that white Americans are among the most racist people on the planet. But like any stereotype, not all of them follow the mold. That's all I'm going to say on that.

    My main point here is your fundamental neurotic affect. You ruthlessly attack ANYone (even a prior 'friend' ) whom you perceive as disagreeing with you, no matter how minor their disagreement, simply for disagreeing with you. It's like you are always personally insulted by their disagreement. This is a hallmark, not only of an immature individual, but one with an extremely neurotic personality. It even borders on narcissism, and is one trait you share with Donald Trump. Another hallmark of your behavior is that you constantly repeat yourself, over and over, as if you regard those you attack as too stupid to remember your repeated argument which you seem to think bolsters your claim of their "mistreatment" of you. This is similar to Donald Trump's use of Twitter to constantly attack the same targets with the same words, over and over, to bolster his claim that he's the victim, instead of the aggressor. What we see here in this forum, I believe, is not you, but rather a manifestation of your idealized self-image, and your attacks are your attempts to defend it. The good news is that you can overcome all this, but I'm afraid that a few years of psychotherapy is in your future, but only if you actually want to throw off the shackles of your neurotic self and finally become fully self-realized.

    If you want to explore what I am "on about", you can read the excellent Neurosis and Human Growth: The Struggle Toward Self-Realization, by Karen Horney. It's even less than 400 pages, so it shouldn't take long to read; absorbing the truth of it may take longer.
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    22 Jun '18 10:10
    Originally posted by @tom-wolsey
    Jingoistic ignorant lying troll Suzianne doesn't consider that Melania is an immigrant and her first language is not English. Suzianne selfishly assumes that everyone must have English as their first language and fully understand the subtle nuances of American humor like the words on Melania's t-shirt. Perhaps Suzianne at this very moment is wishing ev ...[text shortened]... American humor would be rounded up at gunpoint and forced to leave her "shining city on a hill."
    That's it! 😵
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    22 Jun '18 10:40
    Originally posted by @tom-wolsey
    Jingoistic ignorant lying troll Suzianne doesn't consider that Melania is an immigrant and her first language is not English. Suzianne selfishly assumes that everyone must have English as their first language and fully understand the subtle nuances of American humor like the words on Melania's t-shirt. Perhaps Suzianne at this very moment is wishing ev ...[text shortened]... American humor would be rounded up at gunpoint and forced to leave her "shining city on a hill."
    Nailed it.
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    22 Jun '18 10:56
    Originally posted by @whodey
    https://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/judicial-watch-obtains-irs-documents-revealing-mccains-subcommittee-staff-director-urged-irs-to-engage-in-financially-ruinous-targeting/?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=press%20release

    (Washington, DC) – Judicial Watch today released newly obtained internal IRS documents, inclu ...[text shortened]... onized the IRS, the FEC, FBI, and DOJ to target the First Amendment rights of Americans.”

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    Back to the OP.

    Judicial Watch continues their heroic efforts uncovering the tyrannical bent of our betters in DC. Despite all his many many faults, thank God Trump came along and wrested control from these corrupt tyrants.
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