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    22 Oct '18 18:251 edit
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-10-07/bulgarian-tv-journalist-murdered-in-eu-s-third-killing-in-a-year

    We have all been bombarded by the press regarding a journalist murdered by the Saudi government. However, most of us have not heard of any other journalists being murdered about the world. In Bulgaria, there have been no less that three journalists murdered.

    So why not the same kind of coverage? It's because those journalists were uncovering Left wing corruption in government, unions, and the media. However, the Saudi killing is covered by the Left wing media, who also helped murder those journalists in Europe, because of Trumps financial ties to the Saudi Prince, and the Left's hope that the Saudi regime will fall in favor of a more Left wing radical regime that will make war with Israel. Not only that, cutting off the Saudi oil supply to the US is a wet dream by the Left cuz fossil fuels are evil
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    22 Oct '18 18:36
    @whodey said
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-10-07/bulgarian-tv-journalist-murdered-in-eu-s-third-killing-in-a-year

    We have all been bombarded by the press regarding a journalist murdered by the Saudi government. However, most of us have not heard of any other journalists being murdered about the world. In Bulgaria, there have been no less that three journalists murdered.
    ...[text shortened]... hat, cutting off the Saudi oil supply to the US is a wet dream by the Left cuz fossil fuels are evil
    Leaving aside your ridiculous American partisan perspectives for a moment...how do you know the Bulgarian journalists were “uncovering left wing corruption”?
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    22 Oct '18 18:42
    @divegeester said
    Leaving aside your ridiculous American partisan perspectives for a moment...how do you know the Bulgarian journalists were “uncovering left wing corruption”?
    Well it is about journalists exposing corruption from the government, media, and unions.

    Call it what you wish.
  4. Subscriberno1marauder
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    @whodey said
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-10-07/bulgarian-tv-journalist-murdered-in-eu-s-third-killing-in-a-year

    We have all been bombarded by the press regarding a journalist murdered by the Saudi government. However, most of us have not heard of any other journalists being murdered about the world. In Bulgaria, there have been no less that three journalists murdered.
    ...[text shortened]... hat, cutting off the Saudi oil supply to the US is a wet dream by the Left cuz fossil fuels are evil
    Bulgaria has a center-right government.https://www.reuters.com/article/us-bulgaria-government/bulgarian-government-survives-no-confidence-vote-in-parliament-idUSKBN1JP0NM

    A suspect has been arrested and it does not appear the murder was politically motivated.https://www.cbsnews.com/news/bulgarian-journalist-viktoria-marinova-suspect-denies-rape-murder-accidental/

    Obviously the Khashoggi case is a bit different.
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    @no1marauder said
    Bulgaria has a center-right government.https://www.reuters.com/article/us-bulgaria-government/bulgarian-government-survives-no-confidence-vote-in-parliament-idUSKBN1JP0NM

    A suspect has been arrested and it does not appear the murder was politically motivated.https://www.cbsnews.com/news/bulgarian-journalist-viktoria-marinova-suspect-denies-rape-murder-accidental/

    Obviously the Khashoggi case is a bit different.
    Actually, there is the least evidence about the Bulgarian journalist being targeted because of exposing corruption, but the other two are from Malta and Slovakia who are Caruana Galizia and Jan Kuciak who everyone accepts were targeted because of exposing corruption.

    No doubt, you think these countries to be right wing as well.

    What can you say? Trump done it.
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    22 Oct '18 19:52
    @whodey said
    Well it is about journalists exposing corruption from the government, media, and unions.

    Call it what you wish.
    You wished to call it "left wing."
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    22 Oct '18 19:58
    @kazetnagorra said
    You wished to call it "left wing."
    Leftists in my view are collectivists.

    They wish to grow government and their power into one world dominating force.

    Unions are also commonly viewed as Left wing.
  8. Subscriberno1marauder
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    @whodey said
    Leftists in my view are collectivists.

    They wish to grow government and their power into one world dominating force.

    Unions are also commonly viewed as Left wing.
    So you just make up your own definitions and then expect other people to accept them even when they are non-standard?

    The circumstances of the other journalists being killed are a lot more ambiguous than being murdered in a country's consulate; in addition, those journalists didn't have any links to the US while Khashoggi was a resident of our country who published articles in one of its major newspapers. Those are facts which make it understandable that his murder would be big news in the US that don't require your partisan (as always) reading of events.
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    @no1marauder said
    So you just make up your own definitions and then expect other people to accept them even when they are non-standard?

    The circumstances of the other journalists being killed are a lot more ambiguous than being murdered in a country's consulate; in addition, those journalists didn't have any links to the US while Khashoggi was a resident of our country who published art ...[text shortened]... s murder would be big news in the US that don't require your partisan (as always) reading of events.
    Ever heard of Michael Hastings? No worries, no one else has either.

    https://www.teaparty.org/mystery-grows-journalist-died-prepping-obama-expose-27935/

    Elise Jordan, wife of Michael Hastings confirmed that her husband had been working on a story involving CIA Director John Brennan. Last month a source provided San Diego Channel Six, with a copy of an email, hacked from super secret contractor Stratfor’s President Fred Burton. The email , which was posted on Wikileaks, says that then Obama counter terrorism czar Brennan was in charge of the spying on journalists.

    Hastings, who died under very mysterious circumstances in an auto accident had contacted the WikiLeaks lawyer just before he died and seemed very nervous. The details of his accident remain murky. A witness, who claimed the car was speeding, also said he saw an explosion before the car hit the palm tree.



    On the security tape that recorded the accident, it showed a flash of light before the car hit the tree. The car did not hit the tree hard and the engine was about 100 feet away from the tree. Forensics experts are still trying to piece together what happened.

    This is not the first contraversy for John Brennan. During the 2008 run up to the elections, it was announced that President Obama’s passport information had been breached. It was later discovered that the breach was an employee of Brennan’s, while Brennan was working for candidate Obama at the time. His employee had also breached the records of John McCain and Hillary Clinton, possibly as a red herring.

    It has never been established why Brennan wanted to get into President Obama’s files but Obama could have authorized him to at any time. The employee who breached the accounts was never fired and a key witness in the case was found murdered outside his church, while the investigation was still ongoing. The witness, Lt. Quarles Harris Jr, was cooperating with federal authorities at the time of his death. The investigation died with him.

    Hastings final story will appear in the next issue of Rolling Stone magazine, according to his widow.

    Michael Hastings Feared His Mercedes Had Been Tampered With

    The very day before a suspicious car crash claimed his life, journalist Michael Hastings feared his Mercedes had been tampered with and asked to borrow a friend’s vehicle, telling her that he was “scared and wanted to leave town.”

    The revelation, which emerged in an LA Weekly interview with Jordanna Thigpen, re-emphasizes the fact that Hastings was fearful for his safety having complained of being under scrutiny by the FBI.


    Helicopters often circle over the hills, but Hastings believed there were more of them around whenever he was at home, keeping an eye on him. He came to believe his Mercedes was being tampered with. “Nothing I could say could console him,” Thigpen says.

    One night in June, he came to Thigpen’s apartment after midnight and urgently asked to borrow her Volvo. He said he was afraid to drive his own car. She declined, telling him her car was having mechanical problems.

    “He was scared, and he wanted to leave town,” she says.

    The next day, around 11:15 a.m., she got a call from her landlord, who told her Hastings had died early that morning. His car had crashed into a palm tree at 75 mph and exploded in a ball of fire.

    Hastings’ concern that his Mercedes had been sabotaged will spur theories that his car crash was not an accident, despite the release of an autopsy report earlier this week which did not indicate any foul play.

    Although the autopsy report clearly indicated that the small amounts of methamphetamine and marijuana found in Hastings’ blood did not contribute to the crash, the mainstream media has gone out of its way to portray Hastings as a troubled drug user who had relapsed and was about to head into rehab.

    It seems far more likely that Hastings’ drug use after being sober for five years was merely a reaction to the fact that he was being harassed by the feds. As Infowars reported, individuals from an unknown agency visited Hastings’ home the day before his death.

    The day before he died, Hastings also warned in an email that his friends and colleagues were being interviewed by the FBI and told them to get a lawyer, stating he was “onto a big story” and needed “to go off the rada[r] for a bit.” Friends confirmed that the journalist was “very paranoid” about the feds watching him.

    According to whistleblower organization WIkileaks, Hastings also contacted a Wikileaks attorney “just a few hours before he died, saying that the FBI was investigating him.”

    The Department of Justice indicated in a court filing last week that the FBI does have documents on Hastings despite the agency initially denying it had ever had him under investigation.

    Speculation that Hastings could have been murdered center around comments made by former counter-terror czar Richard Clarke, who pointed out the ease with which modern vehicles could be hijacked via computer hacking. A Forbes video demonstrates how it is now possible to commandeer a car using an iPad.

    Other questions have surrounded surveillance camera footage of the crash, which appears to show three explosions before Hastings’ Mercedes comes to a stop. Witnesses also described explosions, with some comparing the sound to bomb blasts. Many automotive experts have pondered why the Mercedes violently exploded into flames.
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    22 Oct '18 20:54
    https://www.theblaze.com/news/2018/10/21/mainstream-media-ignores-death-of-jewish-journalist-who-died-from-alleged-hate-crime-in-new-jersey

    Here is another journalist murdered in the US because he was a white man.

    Again, don't expect to ever read about this or see it on TV.
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    22 Oct '18 21:13
    @whodey said
    Ever heard of Michael Hastings?
    Same old tactics.
    1. Say something stupid.
    2. Get shot down for it.
    3. Change subject

    Lets talk Bulgaria.
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    @whodey said
    Ever heard of Michael Hastings? No worries, no one else has either.

    https://www.teaparty.org/mystery-grows-journalist-died-prepping-obama-expose-27935/

    Elise Jordan, wife of Michael Hastings confirmed that her husband had been working on a story involving CIA Director John Brennan. Last month a source provided San Diego Channel Six, with a copy of an email, hacked from ...[text shortened]... bomb blasts. Many automotive experts have pondered why the Mercedes violently exploded into flames.
    His brother, who was with him the day before he died, doesn't buy into your crank conspiracy theories.https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/michael-hastings-interview_b_4261386.html
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    @whodey

    Whodey opens his mouth and then listens along with everyone else.
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    @whodey said
    Ever heard of Michael Hastings? No worries, no one else has either.

    https://www.teaparty.org/mystery-grows-journalist-died-prepping-obama-expose-27935/

    Elise Jordan, wife of Michael Hastings confirmed that her husband had been working on a story involving CIA Director John Brennan. Last month a source provided San Diego Channel Six, with a copy of an email, hacked from ...[text shortened]... bomb blasts. Many automotive experts have pondered why the Mercedes violently exploded into flames.
    Infowars?
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    26 Oct '18 04:35
    @handyandy said
    Infowars?
    Only Infowars would call Wikileaks a "whistleblower organization".

    His whole post read like an Infowars release. Probably as truthful, too.
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