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    02 Oct '18 21:27
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    Kavanaugh is not going to go to jail. Kavanaugh cannot be prosecuted for something that supposedly happened decades ago. You have to prove someone guilty beyond reasonable doubt to send him to jail.


    Here is what you (one of the more than half of republicans who think Kavanaugh should be confirmed even if he did commit sexual assault) don't understand. He is not on trial. He isn't getting prosecuted. This is a job interview. You don't have to prove he is guilty beyond reasonable doubt. If you believe both Brett and Blasey Ford can be telling the truth, if you don't know who to believe more, it is quite alright to err on the side of caution. We are talking about the Supreme Court, which, even though i believe is a horrible, horrible idea itself, has a huge impact on your lives.

    Kavanaugh doesn't deserve a supreme court seat. Kavanaugh won't die or be homeless if he doesn't get the nomination. If you believe Blasey Ford and all the other women are telling the truth, call your representative and threaten them with losing your vote if they vote to confirm Brett. Register to vote.

    You won't change a damn thing in your country if you don't start using the only thing you have, that vote.
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    02 Oct '18 21:55
    Originally posted by @zahlanzi
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_koveS9n3Y

    Kavanaugh is not going to go to jail. Kavanaugh cannot be prosecuted for something that supposedly happened decades ago. You have to prove someone guilty beyond reasonable doubt to send him to jail.


    Here is what you (one of the more than half of republicans who think Kavanaugh should be confirmed even if ...[text shortened]... change a damn thing in your country if you don't start using the only thing you have, that vote.
    One thing negative (from K's POV): he has already lost his Harvard teaching job. That was done because of student protests.
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    02 Oct '18 22:00
    Originally posted by @zahlanzi
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_koveS9n3Y

    Kavanaugh is not going to go to jail. Kavanaugh cannot be prosecuted for something that supposedly happened decades ago. You have to prove someone guilty beyond reasonable doubt to send him to jail.


    Here is what you (one of the more than half of republicans who think Kavanaugh should be confirmed even if ...[text shortened]... change a damn thing in your country if you don't start using the only thing you have, that vote.
    presumption of innocence is a concept that applies to much more than criminal trials. You liberals sound just absolutely stupid at times.
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    02 Oct '18 22:01
    Originally posted by @mott-the-hoople
    presumption of innocence is a concept that applies to much more than criminal trials. You liberals sound just absolutely stupid at times.
    What else does it "apply to"?
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    02 Oct '18 22:12
    Originally posted by @wittywonka to Mott-the-Hoopie
    What else does it "apply to"?
    Mott-the-Hoopie evidently never has applied 'presumption of innocence' to Muslims accused of any wrongdoing.
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    02 Oct '18 22:142 edits
    Originally posted by @mott-the-hoople
    presumption of innocence is a concept that applies to much more than criminal trials. You liberals sound just absolutely stupid at times.
    What about the part that we know: Kavanaugh is NOT on any kind of criminal trial. He is in fact on a job interview.

    How many people would HR hire if they came in as argumentative as K has clearly been during HIS interview?
    You could also care less K has the worse approval rating amongst the American public. So the bottom line is you want to be in control. You are in fact a control freak. With emphasis on the Freak part.

    BTW, your buddy Trump has now been exposed to a lot of financial shenanigans. For instance, getting salary of 200,000 a year at the age of 3. And a millionaire at age of 8. His dad turned over almost a half billion under control of Trump when he was 18, not the 1 million Trump reported. And we wondered why he doesn't want scrutiny of his tax returns.
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    02 Oct '18 22:461 edit
    Originally posted by @zahlanzi
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_koveS9n3Y

    Kavanaugh is not going to go to jail. Kavanaugh cannot be prosecuted for something that supposedly happened decades ago. You have to prove someone guilty beyond reasonable doubt to send him to jail.


    Here is what you (one of the more than half of republicans who think Kavanaugh should be confirmed even if ...[text shortened]... change a damn thing in your country if you don't start using the only thing you have, that vote.
    Even though he is not going to jail, he is on trial, I assure you.

    Reputation is all we have, and when the Swamp gets done with him, he will be stripped of everything.

    My guess is that it will come down to drinking in college.

    Imagine that if you can. Your life destroyed for drinking in college.
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    02 Oct '18 22:47
    Originally posted by @mott-the-hoople
    presumption of innocence is a concept that applies to much more than criminal trials. You liberals sound just absolutely stupid at times.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pizzagate_conspiracy_theory
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    02 Oct '18 23:11
    Originally posted by @whodey
    Even though he is not going to jail, he is on trial, I assure you.

    Reputation is all we have, and when the Swamp gets done with him, he will be stripped of everything.

    My guess is that it will come down to drinking in college.

    Imagine that if you can. Your life destroyed for drinking in college.
    If this was a job interview, then he failed.
    His demeanour during questioning being combative and angry exposed his temperament, or lack thereof.

    You can try to blame the liberals, but he did this to himself.

    But hey !! He's a good Christian !!
    Give him a mulligan !!
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    02 Oct '18 23:121 edit
    Originally posted by @mghrn55
    If this was a job interview, then he failed.
    His demeanour during questioning being combative and angry exposed his temperament, or lack thereof.

    You can try to blame the liberals, but he did this to himself.

    But hey !! He's a good Christian !!
    Give him a mulligan !!
    Funny, I expected the GOP to nominate another Justice Roberts, you know, someone that would just stab conservatives in the back once again.

    I never even dreamed he might overturn Roe vs. Wade.................but after all this........it he gets in.............I think all bets are off.

    You done pissed him off.

    Enjoy.

    No matter how bad it may get for you, rest assured you deserve much worse.
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    03 Oct '18 00:04
    Originally posted by @duchess64
    Mott-the-Hoopie evidently never has applied 'presumption of innocence' to Muslims accused of any wrongdoing.
    After reading the koran, they dispelled their innocence.
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    03 Oct '18 00:05
    Originally posted by @sonhouse
    What about the part that we know: Kavanaugh is NOT on any kind of criminal trial. He is in fact on a job interview.

    How many people would HR hire if they came in as argumentative as K has clearly been during HIS interview?
    You could also care less K has the worse approval rating amongst the American public. So the bottom line is you want to be in con ...[text shortened]... t the 1 million Trump reported. And we wondered why he doesn't want scrutiny of his tax returns.
    LOL...how many employers would falsely accuse you of rape? And please ...the NYTs is playing you for a fool.
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    03 Oct '18 00:11
    Originally posted by @wittywonka
    What else does it "apply to"?
    society as a whole. If someone were to accuse you of rape would you be cool with everyone thinking you were a rapist? You wouldn't want to have your say, you would just accept and move on? Hell no you wouldn't.
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    03 Oct '18 00:17
    Originally posted by @sonhouse to Mott-the-Hoopie
    What about the part that we know: Kavanaugh is NOT on any kind of criminal trial. He is in fact on a job interview.

    How many people would HR hire if they came in as argumentative as K has clearly been during HIS interview?
    You could also care less K has the worse approval rating amongst the American public. So the bottom line is yo ...[text shortened]... t the 1 million Trump reported. And we wondered why he doesn't want scrutiny of his tax returns.
    "How many people would HR hire if they came in as argumentative as K has clearly been during HIS interview?"
    --Sonhouse

    A well-connected white man may be able to get away with antics like Brett Kavanaugh's.
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    03 Oct '18 00:502 edits
    Originally posted by @mott-the-hoople
    presumption of innocence is a concept that applies to much more than criminal trials. You liberals sound just absolutely stupid at times.
    In law, any presumption may be overcome by sufficient evidence. This is not a criminal trial, so the level of evidence need not be "beyond a reasonable doubt". The evidence presented so far strongly disputes Kavanaugh's credibility (he told many self-serving rather obvious lies in his testimony) while nothing has so far has seriously damaged Blasey Ford's. Using the usual "preponderance of evidence" standard suitable for civil cases, it's hard to make a non-partisan case for Kavanaugh's innocence.

    EDIT: There are a few so-called "conclusive presumptions".
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