Originally posted by checkbaiter
In this new PC world you have to be careful what you say. I know, scary when you sit back and look at it. It seems like some "force" is driving this thing.
"Once, no one would have hesitated to call British politicians acting in the interests of a foreign power, and very possibly taking financial benefits for doing so, “traitors”. And yet, as Al Jazeera’s secretly filmed footage shows, Israeli spies like Shai Masot can readily meet and conspire with a Tory minister’s much-trusted aide to discuss how best to “take down” the deputy foreign minister, Alan Duncan, over his criticisms of Israel’s illegal settlements in the occupied territories. Maria Strizzolo, education minister Robert Halfon’s assistant, suggests engineering a “little scandal” to damage Duncan.
Masot and Israel’s intelligence services cannot infuence British foreign policy through the opposition Labour party, but that doesn’t prevent them from also taking a keen interest in Labour MPs. Masot is filmed talking to Labour Friends of Israel’s chair, Joan Ryan, about “lots of money” – more than £1 million – he has received from the Israeli government to send yet another batch of Labour MPs on an all-expenses-paid trip to Israel, where they will be wined and dined, and primed by top officials to adopt even more extreme pro-Israel positions. LFI is known for sending the largest proportion of MPs to Israel on these kinds of trips.
Does that have an effect on British domestic politics. You bet it does! Israel isn’t a charity.
A large number of those who have been making Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn’s life a misery belong to Labour Friends of Israel. They are the same MPs who have been talking up an “anti-semitism crisis” in the Labour party – based on zero tangible evidence – since Corbyn became party leader. Were they following the dictates of their conscience? Did they really fear an anti-semitism plague had suddenly beset their party? Or were they playing deeply cynical politics to oust a leader who supports justice for the Palestinian people and is considered by Israel’s rightwing government, which has no interest in making peace with the Palestinians, to be bad news for Israel?"
We know perfectly well why people paid by Israel build up hysteria over alleged "anti-semitism" on the part of Israel's critics. What is less clear is why such an experiened politician as Ken Livingstone refuses to take this into account and self-censor more than he does.
My personal opinion is that he was wrong about Hitler and foolish to make the clams he did make. Hitler did not support Zionism. He accepted an agreement to facilitate the emigration of German Jews. That is not the same. A more accurate statement is that certain Zionists participated with the Nazis in elaborating theories of race, certain Zionists actively sought Nazi support for their battle against the British in Palestine, and certain Zionists saw the Nazi programme as an opportunity to induce more Jews to move to Palestine. The appeal of Nazism to certain but not all Zionists was greater and more evident that any reciprocal appeal of Zionism to Nazis. But this is a subtle argument which I do not believe Livngstone ought to be working out in a public forum where it is impossible to keep control over the subtleties of the argument. He was always doomed to be misrepresented and he is too experienced not to take this into account.
So I am annoyed that Livingstone is distracting from Labour's serious work through careless and avoidable stupidity. That does not mean I concede to the Israeli state the right to disable a British politician through their paid agents in the British parliament and the British Labour Party.