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  1. Standard memberlemon lime
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    27 Dec '16 18:341 edit
    Keep the prize or give it back?

    http://www.thefinaledition.com/article/nobel-committee-asks-obama-nicely-to-return-peace-prize.html
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    27 Dec '16 18:40
    Originally posted by lemon lime
    Keep the prize or give it back?

    http://www.thefinaledition.com/article/nobel-committee-asks-obama-nicely-to-return-peace-prize.html
    dead link.
  3. Standard memberlemon lime
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    27 Dec '16 19:161 edit
    Originally posted by Ashiitaka
    dead link.
    ( Here is most of the text from that link. )

    Thorbjorn Jagland, chairman of the Nobel Peace Prize Committee, said today that President Obama “really ought to consider” returning his Nobel Peace Prize Medal immediately, including the “really nice” case it came in.

    Jagland, flanked by the other four members of the Committee, said they’d never before asked for the return of a Peace Prize, “even from a damnable war-criminal like Kissinger,” but that the 10% drawdown in US troops in Afghanistan the President announced last week capped a period of “non-Peace-Prize-winner-type behavior” in 2011. “Guantanamo’s still open. There's bombing Libya. There's blowing bin Laden away rather than putting him on trial. Now a few US troops go home, but the US will be occupying Afghanistan until 2014 and beyond. Don’t even get me started on Yemen!”

    The Committee awarded Obama the coveted prize in 2009 after he made a series of speeches in the first months of his presidency, which convinced the Peace Prize Committee that he was: “creating a new climate of...multilateral diplomacy...an emphasis on the role of the United Nations...of dialogue and negotiations as instruments for resolving international conflicts...and a vision of world free of nuclear arms.”

    “Boy oh boy!” added Jagland. “Did we regret that press release!”

    But, he revealed the committee members were all “legless drunk” the day they voted, as it was the start of Norway’s annual aquavit-tasting festival. The “totally toasted” members listened over and over to replays of Obama’s Cairo speech, tearing up and drinking shots to the glorious future: a black man leading America and the world into a new era of peace, hope and goodwill. “For a few hours we were all 18 year-old students again at the beautiful, occasionally sunny University of Bergen! Oh, how we cried for joy!”

    The chairman said the committee weren’t “going to be pills” about getting the Prize back because they still “basically really liked” Mr. Obama and that sending it back in a plain package by regular mail would [be] fine if it would save him the embarrassment of a public return. But added Jagland, “things could get nasty” if the committee didn’t see it by the time they announce the new Peace Prize winner in the fall. He and the committee then excused themselves to resume their celebration of Norway’s annual aquavit-tasting festival.
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    27 Dec '16 19:28
    Originally posted by lemon lime
    ( Here is most of the text from that link. )

    Thorbjorn Jagland, chairman of the Nobel Peace Prize Committee, said today that President Obama “really ought to consider” returning his Nobel Peace Prize Medal immediately, including the “really nice” case it came in.

    Jagland, flanked by the other four members of the Committee, said they’d never before ...[text shortened]... then excused themselves to resume their celebration of Norway’s annual aquavit-tasting festival.
    Nice piece of prose. Of course it's completely fabricated, but you knew that already.

    http://www.snopes.com/info/news/nobelprize.asp

    In reference to the awarding of the Nobel Peace Prize to [West German chancellor] Willy Brandt in 1971, a decision which was heavily criticized at the time, Jagland said that Brandt and Obama were awarded the prize for some of the same reasons: for moving [their countries'] foreign policy from an approach of confrontation to one of dialogue. The hateful tone Brandt was met with [for seeking to achieve reconciliation between West Germany and the countries of the Soviet bloc] was similar to that encountered by Obama, said Jagland.

    Jagland does not regret [the awarding of the Peace Prize to President Obama], although he does think that Obama has not been looking "very positive" lately due to the recent NSA surveillance controversy. "But we did not award the Peace Prize based on that," he said. "The Peace Prize is not given based on what the winner might do in the future, or what information may come to light at a later stage," he said.
  5. Standard memberlemon lime
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    27 Dec '16 19:54
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    Nice piece of prose. Of course it's completely fabricated, but you knew that already.

    http://www.snopes.com/info/news/nobelprize.asp

    In reference to the awarding of the Nobel Peace Prize to [West German chancellor] Willy Brandt in 1971, a decision which was heavily criticized at the time, Jagland said that Brandt and Obama were awarded the ...[text shortened]... ight do in the future, or what information may come to light at a later stage," he said.
    Don't give up your day job to become a mind reader.

    Whether the story is true or not awarding a peace prize to someone based on what you think they might achieve, rather than waiting until they actually do something to earn it, is by definition ludicrous.
    But considering how Obama has almost single handedly achieved lasting peace in the the middle east he undoubtedly deserved receiving the prize in advance.
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    27 Dec '16 19:57
    Originally posted by lemon lime
    Don't give up your day job to become a mind reader.

    Whether the story is true or not awarding a peace prize to someone based on what you think they might achieve, rather than waiting until they actually do something to earn it, is by definition ludicrous.
    But considering how Obama has almost single handedly achieved lasting peace in the the middle east he undoubtedly deserved receiving the prize in advance.
    The story is not true.

    The prize was not awarded based on expectations of what Obama might achieve.

    The moon landings weren't faked.

    There are no chemtrails.

    There was no controlled demolition of WTC7.
  7. Standard memberSleepyguy
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    27 Dec '16 20:10
    I've experienced regret after Aquavit. That stuff will mess you up.
  8. Standard memberlemon lime
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    27 Dec '16 20:261 edit
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    The story is not true.

    The prize was not awarded based on expectations of what Obama might achieve.

    The moon landings weren't faked.

    There are no chemtrails.

    There was no controlled demolition of WTC7.
    The prize was not awarded based on expectations of what Obama might achieve.

    I could have told you that when he received the award, but perhaps you can enlighten us as to what the award was based on.
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    27 Dec '16 20:34
    Originally posted by lemon lime
    [b]The prize was not awarded based on expectations of what Obama might achieve.

    I could have told you that when he received the award, but perhaps you can enlighten us as to what the award was based on.[/b]
    Scroll up, read the quote.
  10. Standard memberHandyAndy
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    27 Dec '16 20:48
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    Scroll up, read the quote.
    But sober up first.
  11. Standard memberlemon lime
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    27 Dec '16 20:482 edits
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    Scroll up, read the quote.
    The award was based on words rather than actions. They liked what he was saying. And for this he deserved winning a prize, the Nobel Peace Prize.

    Alfred Nobel. According to Nobel's will, the Peace Prize shall be awarded to the person who in the preceding year "shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses.
    [ Nobel Peace Prize - Wikipedia ]
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    27 Dec '16 21:20
    Originally posted by lemon lime
    The award was based on words rather than actions. They liked what he was saying. And for this he deserved winning a prize, the Nobel Peace Prize.

    Alfred Nobel. According to Nobel's will, the Peace Prize shall be awarded to the person who in the preceding year "shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abol ...[text shortened]... armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses.
    [ Nobel Peace Prize - Wikipedia ]
    Well, I think this Nobel Prize for Obama was pretty stupid, although not quite in the league of Kissinger, Arafat or Mandela. But it's not you or me who determine who gets the Nobel Peace Prize, but the committee, and they can do whatever the heck they want. Don't like it? No one's forcing you to agree with their decisions. No one's forcing you to make up stuff about them either.
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    27 Dec '16 21:22
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    Nice piece of prose. Of course it's completely fabricated, but you knew that already.

    http://www.snopes.com/info/news/nobelprize.asp

    In reference to the awarding of the Nobel Peace Prize to [West German chancellor] Willy Brandt in 1971, a decision which was heavily criticized at the time, Jagland said that Brandt and Obama were awarded the ...[text shortened]... ight do in the future, or what information may come to light at a later stage," he said.
    Good ol' Snopes to the rescue--- you know: by doing the real research.
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    27 Dec '16 21:24
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    The story is not true.

    The prize was not awarded based on expectations of what Obama might achieve.

    The moon landings weren't faked.

    There are no chemtrails.

    There was no controlled demolition of WTC7.
    Dude!
    You're five for five!
    You got all five wrong!
    ~whoa~
  15. Standard memberlemon lime
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    27 Dec '16 21:51
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    Well, I think this Nobel Prize for Obama was pretty stupid, although not quite in the league of Kissinger, Arafat or Mandela. But it's not you or me who determine who gets the Nobel Peace Prize, but the committee, and they can do whatever the heck they want. Don't like it? No one's forcing you to agree with their decisions. No one's forcing you to make up stuff about them either.
    Of course they can do whatever they want when it comes to handing out awards. I'm not saying they can't (or shouldn't) do as they please in that regard. It appears your argument is mostly based on your uncanny mind reading disability... so again, I strongly urge you to not give up your day job.

    By the way, you're entitled to your opinion if you believe giving Obama the Nobel Prize was stupid. But it's not you or me who determine who gets the Nobel Peace Prize, but the committee, and they can do whatever the heck they want. Don't like it? No one's forcing you to agree with their decisions.
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