Originally posted by sh76 to Normbenign
Some sort of compensation package would have to substitute for the "right of return" according to most people familiar with the process. Obviously, Israel wouldn't accept the right of all Palestinians to return to places within Israel's post-negotiation border any more than the Arab countries would accept the right of return of the Jews the expell ...[text shortened]... t agendas can be changed and compromises can be made.
What other good choice is there anyway?
Much nonsense passes without criticism (except perhaps by me) in this
forum because of the overwhelming historical ignorance among its readers.
Regardless of disingenuous Zionist arguments, there's far from an exact
comparison between the Palestinian refugees expelled by force by Israel
and the (fewer) Jews who left their native Arab countries to go Israel.
Contrary to many often reiterated Zionist lies, the Palestinians fled--involuntarily--
out of understandable fears for their lives (the Zionist massacre of the Arab
village of Deir Yassin being one infamous example). The Palestinians did
*not* become refugees in Lebanon, for instance, because they thought
their lives would improve by going there. And international law has no
provision for depriving refugees from returning to their homes after a war.
In contrast, the situations of Jews in Arab societies was more complicated.
Traditionally, Jews were generally better treated as a minority there than
they were in Christian Europe. Avi Shlaim, an Israeli Jewish historian, has
said that his Jewish parents were 'very nostalgic' about their lives in Iraq
and the Jewish minority there did not have any particular problems until the
the rise of Zionism began to poison relations between the Arabs and Jews.
Of course, the Zionists did *not want Jews to stay* in their native Arab societies.
The Zionists wanted all Jews there to leave and 'come home' to Israel.
(So it seems disingenuous for Zionists today to *complain* about Jews
leaving Arab societies for Israel.) The Zionists did their utmost through
propaganda to persuade Jews to leave Arab societies to 'return' to Israel.
When that failed in some cases, Israeli agents did whatever they could to
incite hostility between Arabs and Jews, provoking (often successfully)
Arab regimes to act more oppressively against their Jewish minorities, thus
impelling more Jews to leave for Israel. So the Zionists share responsibility
with the Arab regimes for Jewish emigration from Arab societies to Israel.
To sum up, Zionism was motivated to create or incite more hostility between
Arabs and Jews in Arab societies in order to induce those Jews to leave for Israel.
In contrast--contrary to an often reiterated Zionist lie about Arab radio
broadcasts allegedly encouraging Palestinians to leave in 1948--Arab states
did *not* encourage Palestinians to become refugees, adding to the burdens
of those states. Today Zionism would strongly discourage any Israeli Jews
from returning to their ancestral homes in Arab societies. (Zionism does
*not* want Jews leaving Israel.) In contrast, despite decades of oppression,
the determination of Palestinian refugees to return to Palestine evidently
remains about as strong as it was in 1948.