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  1. 15 Jun '15 10:49
    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/17067#.VX6sHZtFCUl

    It appears that Israel is being targeted academically now. European scientists and those in academics have boycotted those in Israel because of their government policies.

    So how did Europeans develop such a morally superior state of being?
  2. Standard member shavixmir
    Guppy poo
    15 Jun '15 11:15
    Originally posted by whodey
    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/17067#.VX6sHZtFCUl

    It appears that Israel is being targeted academically now. European scientists and those in academics have boycotted those in Israel because of their government policies.

    So how did Europeans develop such a morally superior state of being?
    Simply put: we're just more evolved than the rest of you.

    We've already discovered that industrialized hatred only leads to bad karma. The rest of you don't seem to get that yet.

    Don't worry though, we're too superior to hold it against you.
  3. 15 Jun '15 13:20
    An article from a dodgy website, featuring some unsourced quotes from unknown individuals, after which whodey casually makes a sweeping generalization about millions of people. In other words, a rather typical whodey thread.
  4. Standard member sh76
    Civis Americanus Sum
    15 Jun '15 14:33
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    An article from a dodgy website, featuring some unsourced quotes from unknown individuals, after which whodey casually makes a sweeping generalization about millions of people. In other words, a rather typical whodey thread.
    Arutz Sheva is not a "dodgy" website. It's one of the top 5 Israeli news sources.

    Granted, it's just an op-ed piece which is not put forth as authoritative and of course the thread title is overbroad, but academic boycotts of Israel are all too real and can hardly be swept under the rug by a quick ad hominem at RHP's easiest target.
  5. Standard member bill718
    Enigma
    15 Jun '15 15:18
    Whodey...you're a master at making a mountain out of a mole hill. Scientific and government bodies are rarely in agreement for very long, and boycotts are not that uncommon. This boycott will go away with time, just as all the others have.

    Have you ever thought about writing for the National Enquirer? I hear they discovered Elvis is living on Mars with Laurel and Hardy .
  6. 15 Jun '15 15:38
    Originally posted by shavixmir
    Simply put: we're just more evolved than the rest of you.

    We've already discovered that industrialized hatred only leads to bad karma. The rest of you don't seem to get that yet.

    Don't worry though, we're too superior to hold it against you.
    Is it genetics or environment or the fact you are science lovers?
  7. 15 Jun '15 15:39
    Originally posted by sh76
    Arutz Sheva is not a "dodgy" website. It's one of the top 5 Israeli news sources.

    Granted, it's just an op-ed piece which is not put forth as authoritative and of course the thread title is overbroad, but academic boycotts of Israel are all too real and can hardly be swept under the rug by a quick ad hominem at RHP's easiest target.
    Anything that Progressives don't like is considered dodgy.

    After all, they have cornered the market on intergrity and truthiness.
  8. 15 Jun '15 15:45
    Originally posted by bill718
    Whodey...you're a master at making a mountain out of a mole hill. Scientific and government bodies are rarely in agreement for very long, and boycotts are not that uncommon. This boycott will go away with time, just as all the others have.

    Have you ever thought about writing for the National Enquirer? I hear they discovered Elvis is living on Mars with Laurel and Hardy .
    I could never make a good living in this Progressive dominated media. My views are not welcome.
  9. Subscriber no1marauder
    It's Nice to Be Nice
    15 Jun '15 19:51
    Originally posted by sh76
    Arutz Sheva is not a "dodgy" website. It's one of the top 5 Israeli news sources.

    Granted, it's just an op-ed piece which is not put forth as authoritative and of course the thread title is overbroad, but academic boycotts of Israel are all too real and can hardly be swept under the rug by a quick ad hominem at RHP's easiest target.
    There's no reason to sweep it under the rug; it is surely a morally justifiable decision for individual academics or organizations not to deal with any Israeli institution given that nation's brutal treatment and oppression of Palestinians in the occupied territories. See:

    http://www.salon.com/2015/05/27/to_critics_of_the_academic_boycott_of_israel_what_about_academic_freedom_for_the_children_of_gaza/

    Whether boycotts of any sort actually "work" is debatable but surely those who don't want to deal with the organs of a repressive society should be free to not do so and recruit others to do the same.
  10. Subscriber no1marauder
    It's Nice to Be Nice
    15 Jun '15 20:00 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by whodey
    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/17067#.VX6sHZtFCUl

    It appears that Israel is being targeted academically now. European scientists and those in academics have boycotted those in Israel because of their government policies.

    So how did Europeans develop such a morally superior state of being?
    The boycott exists in the US, too. http://www.usacbi.org/

    And:

    Haaretz reported in 2009 that a group of American professors had joined the boycott call in the wake of the 2008–2009 Israel–Gaza conflict:

    "While Israeli academics have grown used to such news from Great Britain, where anti-Israel groups several times attempted to establish academic boycotts, the formation of the United States movement marks the first time that a national academic boycott movement has come out of America."[84][85]

    The group's name is "U.S. Campaign for the Academic & Cultural Boycott of Israel." (USACBI)[86]
    Support and successes
    Associations

    In April 2013, the Association for Asian American Studies (AAAS) voted to boycott Israeli universities and academic institutions.[87] It was joined in December by the American Studies Association (ASA). In a vote in which 1,252 of its 5,000 members participated, 66% voted in favour of a boycott.[88] The reasons given were "Israel's violation of international law and UN resolutions; the documented impact of the Israeli occupation on Palestinian scholars and students; [and] the extent to which Israeli institutions of higher education are a party to state policies that violate human rights," and thus "negatively impact the working conditions of Palestinian scholars and students."[89] Many proponents of the ASA's boycott, including Yale professor and past president of the ASA Matthew Frye Jacobson, argue that the action can be seen as "symbolic", as it is such defined by the ASA council statement.[90][91]

    In December 2013, the council of the Native American and Indigenous Studies Association voted unanimously in favor of the academic boycott of Israel, becoming the third American academic association to participate in PACBI's Call to action.[92] NAISA made an official declaration of its support for the academic boycott of Israel, choosing to create an original document of declaration in order to protest, "the infringement of the academic freedom of Indigenous Palestinian academics and intellectuals in the Occupied Territories and Israel who are denied fundamental freedoms of movement, expression, and assembly, which [it] uphold[s]."[93]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academic_boycotts_of_Israel#United_States
  11. Standard member sh76
    Civis Americanus Sum
    15 Jun '15 20:36 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    There's no reason to sweep it under the rug; it is surely a morally justifiable decision for individual academics or organizations not to deal with any Israeli institution given that nation's brutal treatment and oppression of Palestinians in the occupied territories. See:

    http://www.salon.com/2015/05/27/to_critics_of_the_academic_boycott_of_israel_wh ...[text shortened]... he organs of a repressive society should be free to not do so and recruit others to do the same.
    Individual Israeli citizens are not "organs of a repressive society" any more than you are an organ of American imperialism. Would someone be morally justified in boycotting your services because you're American and the US unjustifiably invaded Iraq or should they look at you as an individual?
  12. Subscriber no1marauder
    It's Nice to Be Nice
    15 Jun '15 21:06 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by sh76
    Individual Israeli citizens are not "organs of a repressive society" any more than you are an organ of American imperialism. Would someone be morally justified in boycotting your services because you're American and the US unjustifiably invaded Iraq or should they look at you as an individual?
    Red herring. If you bothered to check the boycott guidelines, you'd know they don't automatically apply to individuals:

    Anchored in precepts of international law and universal human rights, the BDS movement, including PACBI, rejects on principle boycotts of individuals based on their identity (such as citizenship, race, gender, or religion) or opinion. If, however, an individual is representing the state of Israel or a complicit Israeli institution (such as a dean, rector, or president), or is commissioned/recruited to participate in Israel’s efforts to “rebrand” itself, then her/his activities are subject to the institutional boycott the BDS movement is calling for.

    Mere affiliation of Israeli scholars to an Israeli academic institution is therefore not grounds for applying the boycott.

    http://www.usacbi.org/guidelines-for-applying-the-international-cultural-boycott-of-israel/
  13. 16 Jun '15 00:53
    Originally posted by whodey
    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/17067#.VX6sHZtFCUl

    It appears that Israel is being targeted academically now. European scientists and those in academics have boycotted those in Israel because of their government policies.

    So how did Europeans develop such a morally superior state of being?
    Many diverse people (Europeans and non-Europeans), including some Jews,
    approve of various academic boycotts of Israel.

    On the other hand, the United States has long maintained (though it's gradually changing)
    a comprehensive embargo against Cuba of which hardly any other country approved.
  14. Standard member shavixmir
    Guppy poo
    16 Jun '15 09:27
    Originally posted by whodey
    Is it genetics or environment or the fact you are science lovers?
    It's down to us being well endowed and bloody terrific in bed.

    Just ask your women.
  15. Standard member shavixmir
    Guppy poo
    16 Jun '15 09:28
    Originally posted by sh76
    Arutz Sheva is not a "dodgy" website. It's one of the top 5 Israeli news sources.

    Granted, it's just an op-ed piece which is not put forth as authoritative and of course the thread title is overbroad, but academic boycotts of Israel are all too real and can hardly be swept under the rug by a quick ad hominem at RHP's easiest target.
    One of the top 5...