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    26 Feb '18 01:381 edit
    https://freedom-daily.com/crooked-sheriff-just-received-a-lot-of-cash-after-his-connection-to-shooter-revealed-heres-who-paid/

    This just keeps getting uglier and uglier.

    The shooting in Parkland, Florida was a tragedy and ensuing conversation regarding gun control has waged on since the shooting. While many blame the NRA others have pointed to the non-action by the local law enforcement as well as the Federal Bureau of Investigation. Officers at the school were armed and refused to engage the shooter. Law enforcement was called to the boy’s house over 30 times. There is accountability to go all around.

    However, the County Sheriff refuses to accept responsibility and instead chooses to push the blame elsewhere. But after some extensive research, it was found that in reality, he has a much shadier past than anyone realized.

    The Last Refuge reported,

    “A few points need to be emphasized for those unfamiliar with the Broward County system. First, with revelations of frequent LEO contact and calls from people warning about school shooter Nikolas Cruz, there’s a common narrative mistakenly being pushed by mainstream media.

    The Broward County Sheriff’s Office (BSO) didn’t “miss warning signs” or make “mistakes” in not writing up reports. The Sheriff’s office did exactly what their internal policies, procedures and official training required them to do, they intentionally ignored the signs, and intentionally didn’t generate documents



    Example: Miami Herald […] In November, a tipster called BSO to say Cruz “could be a school shooter in the making” but deputies did not write up a report on that warning. It came just weeks after a relative called urging BSO to seize his weapons. Two years ago, according to a newly released timeline of interactions with Cruz’s family, a deputy investigated a report that Cruz “planned to shoot up the school” — intelligence that was forwarded to the school’s resource officer, with no apparent result. (read more)

    It is important to understand the policy here. Broward County law enforcement (Sheriff Israel), in conjunction with Broward County School Officials (Superintendent Runcie and School Board), have a standing policy to ignore any criminal engagement with High School students. When the police are hiding current, actual and ongoing unlawful conduct as a matter of standard procedure on a regular basis, what do we expect the police would do with reports of potential unlawful conduct? Of course they would ignore them. This is horrific. “In November, a tipster called BSO to say Cruz ‘could be a school shooter in the making’ but deputies did not write up a report on that warning. It came just weeks after a relative called urging BSO to seize his weapons.”

    This is not a “mistake” on their part, the ‘doing nothing’ is part of the standard practice. Secondly, the 27 minute tape-delay in the CCTV system is not an “accident”, “flaw” or “mistake”. It is entirely by design. As a standard Broward and Miami-Dade practice, when school law enforcement need to cover-up or hide behavior, they need time (when that behavior happens) to delete the evidence trail. As such the school policy -as carried out in practice- is more efficient with a 30 minute tape delay affording the school officer enough time to deal with the situation, then erase the possibility of a recording of the unlawful activity surfacing.

    Building in a 30 minute delay on the CCTV system was one of those pesky add-on items that happened a few years ago when the School and Law Enforcement officials established the policy of intentionally not arresting students. With modern technology it’s tough to hide criminal behavior, especially the violent stuff, when it is being recorded. Duh. Ergo the tape-delay was the best-practice workaround. Lastly, when the county education policy is intentionally constructed to ignore criminal behavior in schools, the Sheriff and School superintendent cannot rely on “law-and-order-minded” school police officers to carry out the heavily nuanced policy. The county officials need the people closest to the work, the officers, to be able to think quickly on their feet to safeguard their prized district-wide statistics.

    2013 – Broward announced broad changes designed to mitigate the use of harsh punishments for minor misbehavior at the beginning of this school year. While other districts have amended their discipline codes, prohibited arrests in some circumstances, and developed alternatives to suspension, Broward was able to do all these things at once with the cooperation of a group that included a member of the local NAACP, a school board member, a public defender, a local sheriff, a state prosecutor, and several others. In early November, The Miami Herald reported that suspensions were already down 40 percent and arrests were down 66 percent.

    A Broward County SRO must carry a political hat and be able to intercept behavior, modify his/her action based on a specific policy need, falsify documents, hide evidence, manipulate records and engage inside the system with an understanding of the unwritten goals. Broward County school law enforcement are given political instructions, and carrying out political objectives. They are not given law-enforcement instructions. The school officers are the primary foot soldiers carrying out county political policy. Physical security of school students is not their role, they don’t have time for that. The Broward County SRO is in place to protect the school system “policy” and ensure students are not arrested for criminal conduct.

    If you begin reviewing the downstream consequences with a correct understanding of the originating policy objectives then everything begins to make sense. Again, from the Miami Herald: […] on Nov. 30, an unidentified caller from Massachusetts called to say Cruz was collecting guns and knives. The caller said “Cruz will kill himself one day and believes he could be a school shooter in the making.” BSO, however, never even wrote a report on the tip. Internal affairs detectives are now trying to figure out what happened. Deputies Edward Eason and Guntis Treijs are on restricted duty while detectives examine their handling of the two potential school shooter tips. After the shooting, the tipster was re-interviewed and said BSO told him to report Cruz to the Palm Beach Sheriff’s, as the teen was then living in the neighboring county.

    Of course the Broward County Sheriff’s Office didn’t write a report. Writing a report would not be in line with the goals of hiding student criminal behavior. Additionally, it seems odd to see the Miami Herald reporting on Nikolas Cruz in 2018; when the same editorial staff conspicuously avoided any aspects of Trayvon Martin’s student criminal behavior in 2012 and 2013. I wonder why there’s such a difference now?

    [School Police Officer Scot] Peterson is mentioned as part of a 2016 social services agency investigation into Nikolas Cruz, the 19-year-old identified by police as the gunman. According to a Florida Department of Children and Families report detailing that investigation, Peterson was approached by investigators and “refused to share any information … regarding [an] incident that took place with” the teenager. That same year, the sheriff’s office revealed Thursday, it was told about “third hand information” from a “neighbor’s son” suggesting that Cruz “planned to shoot up the school,” although the specific school was not listed. The sheriff’s office said a deputy contacted the caller, determined that Cruz had knives and a BB gun and sent the information to the school resource officer — presumably Peterson. It is unclear whether he investigated.”
  2. Seongnam, S. Korea
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    26 Feb '18 01:41
    The picture does become uglier because this looks a lot less likely the failure of a lack of gun control and rather it appears to be the failure of authorities to enforce existing laws and to maintain law and order within their society.
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    26 Feb '18 02:29
    Originally posted by @whodey
    https://freedom-daily.com/crooked-sheriff-just-received-a-lot-of-cash-after-his-connection-to-shooter-revealed-heres-who-paid/

    This just keeps getting uglier and uglier.

    The shooting in Parkland, Florida was a tragedy and ensuing conversation regarding gun control has waged on since the shooting. While many blame the NRA others have pointed to the non- ...[text shortened]... on to the school resource officer — presumably Peterson. It is unclear whether he investigated.”
    Safest neighborhood evah...
  4. Standard memberHandyAndy
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    26 Feb '18 02:51
    Originally posted by @whodey
    https://freedom-daily.com/
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    26 Feb '18 02:59
    Originally posted by @handyandy
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    Anything with the word "freedom" makes handy sad.
  6. SubscriberKingDavid403
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    26 Feb '18 03:12
    Originally posted by @whodey
    Anything with the word "freedom" makes handy sad.
    Anything with facts or truth involved makes you sad.
  7. Subscriberno1marauder
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    26 Feb '18 04:50
    Originally posted by @whodey
    https://freedom-daily.com/crooked-sheriff-just-received-a-lot-of-cash-after-his-connection-to-shooter-revealed-heres-who-paid/

    This just keeps getting uglier and uglier.

    The shooting in Parkland, Florida was a tragedy and ensuing conversation regarding gun control has waged on since the shooting. While many blame the NRA others have pointed to the non- ...[text shortened]... on to the school resource officer — presumably Peterson. It is unclear whether he investigated.”
    This is almost all BS but those familiar with whodey's cut and pastes should hardly be surprised by that. Among its many falsehoods, it is simply blatantly untrue that Broward Sheriff's Department has " a standing policy to ignore any criminal engagement with High School students." This is simply ridiculous, like most of the hysterical claims here.
  8. Seongnam, S. Korea
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    26 Feb '18 04:58
    So tell us more about how it is untrue, marauder.

    I have heard that it is pretty typical to not press charges in a lot of incidents involving minors at high schools, which is exactly why it is not uncommon for a fight at a school to be treated as a school issue. Indeed, I saw that before at my own high school.

    It doesn't seem uncommon at all.

    But do you have some intimate knowledge of Broward County to share with us?

    Or do you just want to take away all guns, instead of ameliorating legal precedents to help us enforce the existing gun laws?
  9. Subscriberno1marauder
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    26 Feb '18 05:101 edit
    Originally posted by @philokalia
    So tell us more about how it is untrue, marauder.

    I have heard that it is pretty typical to not press charges in a lot of incidents involving minors at high schools, which is exactly why it is not uncommon for a fight at a school to be treated as a school issue. Indeed, I saw that before at my own high school.

    It doesn't seem uncommon at all.

    ...[text shortened]... way all guns, instead of ameliorating legal precedents to help us enforce the existing gun laws?
    https://www.scribd.com/document/372308388/Broward-County-Promise-Program-Fully-Executed-Collaborative-Agreement-Final-Document?irgwc=1&content=10079&campaign=Skimbit%2C%20Ltd.&ad_group=725X700959X59107cb40fea7d8e4b0dcaf257432033&keyword=ft750noi&source=impactradius&medium=affiliate

    Read it and tell me if it does what the OP claims.

    I'm generally against gun control BTW though I'd like to see a restriction on the size of magazines and perhaps some other changes based on the increase in mass shootings we have experienced. Clearly present law isn't sufficient; despite all these hysterical threads, no one has yet pointed out what in Florida law would have prevented Cruz from having and using his AR-15.
  10. Subscriberno1marauder
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    26 Feb '18 05:23
    In general, the Broward policy is to normally not make arrests for minor offenses committed by students on school grounds but leave the matter to school disciplinary policy. That is a sensible one and hardly equates to "standing policy to ignore any criminal engagement with High School students." as the propaganda piece claims.
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