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@AverageJoe1 said
this poster pontificates while musing his wood stove over near the kitchen wall, prob only one, the house cannot be too large. What if it is large? I have 7 children, 4 bedrooms.
Kitchen? My woodstove is not in my kitchen. It is in my living room.
As I said, heating with wood is a choice. It is messy. There is bark all over my floor. Dust from the ashes is pretty bad. It is low cost in my area if I cut the wood myself though.

Do you live in a rural area? What do you heat your house with now?

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@AverageJoe1 said
Just so you will be in the loop when all of this Trumpism hits, Lowering energy prices by getting a handle (a spout) on all the liquid gold oil under our feet will cause.................you guessed it, lower grocery prices.
LMAO! You really are completely brain dead.

The US increased energy production under Biden to its highest level in history; did that "bring down grocery prices"?

Also as I explained to you before, it would take years to increase production by building offshore wells and even then it would be unlikely to reduce prices. It costs money to build wells and if oil companies thought building more would decrease the price of the end product, why would they do so? The only reason to spend the billions in investments that it would take to build such wells would be if they expected to increase profits and you don't do that in the energy industry by dropping prices.

I could also go over -AGAIN - the reality that oil prices are set in worldwide markets based on global production and demand and that US production is something like 20% or so of the world total meaning small changes in their level will have little effect on the price of oil. The US could more easily effect the price by cutting consumption, since we use far more than we produce. But it would probably be useless to explain these simple facts to you since I did it before without it lodging in your cranium.

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@Metal-Brain said
Kitchen? My woodstove is not in my kitchen. It is in my living room.
As I said, heating with wood is a choice. It is messy. There is bark all over my floor. Dust from the ashes is pretty bad. It is low cost in my area if I cut the wood myself though.

Do you live in a rural area? What do you heat your house with now?
Would it work in a 2 story Georgian , or a Williamsburg . I don’t need a home that large, empty bedrooms now,kids left nest, but will that wood stuff, with all the dust and soot and ash you kid about, would my wife be happy with that?would the fine fabric curtains smell, needin periodic cleaning?
Would the floors be a bit nasty. You messin w AvJoe? Would that socialist senator woman tell me I don’t need a big house, as she tells me no more gas stoves allowed? Nor overuse of water.?
No answer needed. My side is busy!
Gotta order about 5 cords Fwood, or the little wood guy will go out of business. For ambiance which I have worked for, for it to surround me.

PS heat w gas

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@no1marauder said
LMAO! You really are completely brain dead.

The US increased energy production under Biden to its highest level in history; did that "bring down grocery prices"?

Also as I explained to you before, it would take years to increase production by building offshore wells and even then it would be unlikely to reduce prices. It costs money to build wells and if oil compani ...[text shortened]... eless to explain these simple facts to you since I did it before without it lodging in your cranium.
https://shalemag.com/biden-vs-trump-energy-policies/

Trump oil
Biden green

Last para,,,”’ if you want fossil fuels, oil is your man.” Otherwise, Biden for faerie green.


@AverageJoe1 said
https://shalemag.com/biden-vs-trump-energy-policies/

Trump oil
Biden green

Last para,,,”’ if you want fossil fuels, oil is your man.” Otherwise, Biden for faerie green.
Dude... what? Trump signed ten year bans on drilling in at least three states while he was president.

Doh.


@AverageJoe1 said
https://shalemag.com/biden-vs-trump-energy-policies/

Trump oil
Biden green

Last para,,,”’ if you want fossil fuels, oil is your man.” Otherwise, Biden for faerie green.
From your article:

"Had Biden served during Trump’s term, and Trump during Biden’s, the results wouldn’t have been substantially different when it comes to oil production. "

And it ends:

"Just be sure to maintain realistic expectations around the short-term impacts of either president’s policies."

So no, nothing Trump will do will significantly impact oil prices (except perhaps raise them IF he gets in a tariff war) and certainly no policy he has suggested would "cut grocery prices".


@AverageJoe1 said
Just so you will be in the loop when all of this Trumpism hits, Lowering energy prices by getting a handle (a spout) on all the liquid gold oil under our feet will cause.................you guessed it, lower grocery prices.
Trump apologism is just a fad, you know.

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@wildgrass said
Dude... what? Trump signed ten year bans on drilling in at least three states while he was president.

Doh.
Get Shouse to write up a treatise on that, and it can only be complete if every facet of the reasoning, and step by step process, is explained. Then it should make sense to the Forum.You could google it, too.
But I am not interested in the past, I guess I will be saying that a lot over the next several months when the Present is keeping us quite busy.
Feel free to tell AvJoe that we learn a lot from the past, but since we are all on Really new unknown territory with our country now, untried ideas, a presidency like no other considering the talent, the past does not fit well.


@AverageJoe1 said
Really want? Free hostages
...and you refer to?

the Hamas? They won't be impressed by Trump at all, and they are already having hell, so the thread is absolutely in vain.

the so called Jan6 hostages? Lets see if he will pardon people who have been sentenced to prison for very serious crimes.


@wildgrass said
On second thought, they should rename it "Gulf of How will this lower grocery store prices?"
It would be nice to know what the people who lived there when Columbus sailed in called the waters...but then "Denali" seems impalatable to some.


@no1marauder said
From your article:

"Had Biden served during Trump’s term, and Trump during Biden’s, the results wouldn’t have been substantially different when it comes to oil production. "

And it ends:

"Just be sure to maintain realistic expectations around the short-term impacts of either president’s policies."

So no, nothing Trump will do will significantly impact oil pric ...[text shortened]... hem IF he gets in a tariff war) and certainly no policy he has suggested would "cut grocery prices".
why you little cherry picker. So now I am supposed to go back to the article and find pro-Trump comments?

I will leave it by pointing out that your last comment Predicts! , ala Sonhouse, that "Nothing Trump Will Do....". Should we hang our hats on THAT!? a prediction.

Help me Rhonda.

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@Ponderable said
...and you refer to?

the Hamas? They won't be impressed by Trump at all, and they are already having hell, so the thread is absolutely in vain.

the so called Jan6 hostages? Lets see if he will pardon people who have been sentenced to prison for very serious crimes.
There are only the Hamas hostages in the news, to which I refer. I look forward to their release, of course, and like you am curious as to just what Trump is up to.
And I agree 100% with you, that these desert rats think nothing of dying and any threat or action by Trump is a waste of time. They will be unimpressed.

Why do the posts of you libs seem to be of a snarky nature, are you mad at me and my comments about world order? Do you wish I did links? Or, are you still just festering over the election....that de'Callma Washington is not our president to deal with world order?

Try something easy. Tell us why in the world the Wall Iron sale was cancelled. I am curious myself, but they have me doing back and studying why Trump did some funky thing about oil banning or some such, so I've no time to research.

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@AverageJoe1 said
Get Shouse to write up a treatise on that, and it can only be complete if every facet of the reasoning, and step by step process, is explained. Then it should make sense to the Forum.You could google it, too.
But I am not interested in the past, I guess I will be saying that a lot over the next several months when the Present is keeping us quite busy.
Feel free ...[text shortened]... y now, untried ideas, a presidency like no other considering the talent, the past does not fit well.
No need for a treatise it's super simple. The drilling bans signed by trump in 2020 were for ten years.

They didn't tell you about this on Fox News?


@wildgrass said
No need for a treatise it's super simple. The drilling bans signed by trump in 2020 were for ten years.

They didn't tell you about this on Fox News?
I can t google., Tell us all, since you brought it up, why he did that, inasmuch he is an oil lover? In your own words.


@AverageJoe1 said
Would it work in a 2 story Georgian , or a Williamsburg . I don’t need a home that large, empty bedrooms now,kids left nest, but will that wood stuff, with all the dust and soot and ash you kid about, would my wife be happy with that?would the fine fabric curtains smell, needin periodic cleaning?
Would the floors be a bit nasty. You messin w AvJoe? Would that sociali ...[text shortened]... ll go out of business. For ambiance which I have worked for, for it to surround me.

PS heat w gas
"with all the dust and soot and ash you kid about, would my wife be happy with that?"

My guess is probably not. That is why I said it is not for everybody.
I wasn't kidding about the mess of bark and dust. It is a downside everyone should consider before switching to wood heat.

Heating preference is largely due to what is available or cheap. A corn farmer in Iowa might burn corn for heat in a corn stove. A person in Kentucky might burn coal. What is available in your area?