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  1. 18 Nov '15 14:32 / 1 edit
    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/11/france-only-30-muslims-show-up-for-rally-against-paris-jihad-attacks

    That's right, Muslims protested the violence in Paris, all 30 of them.

    That’s thirty Muslims out of around five million Muslims in France. This is not the first time that attendance at a Muslim rally against terrorism has been decidedly underwhelming. In July 2015, a Muslim rally in Ireland against the Islamic State drew fifty people. In October 2014 in Houston, a rally against the Islamic State organized by the Hamas-linked Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) drew the grand total of ten people. In August 2013 in Boston, about 25 Muslims rallied against “misperceptions” that Islam was violent. About the same number showed up in June 2013 at a progressive Muslim rally in Toronto to claim that their religion had been “hijacked.”

    And back in 2005, a group called the Free Muslims Coalition held what it dubbed a “Free Muslims March Against Terror,” intending to “send a message to the terrorists and extremists that their days are numbered … and to send a message to the people of the Middle East, the Muslim world and all people who seek freedom, democracy and peaceful coexistence that we support them.” In the run-up to the event it got enthusiastic national and international publicity, but it ended up drawing about twenty-five people.

    Contrast those paltry showings to the thousands of Muslims who have turned out for rallies against cartoons of Muhammad or against Israel. Here are some headlines from the aftermath of the Charlie Hebdo jihad massacre of Muhammad cartoonists in January 2015:

    Chechnya: 800,000 Muslims protest Muhammad cartoons; protests also in Iran, Pakistan, Ingushetia, elsewhere

    Pakistan: 10,000 Muslims protest against Charlie Hebdo’s Muhammad cartoons

    Australia: 1,000 Muslims rally against Charlie Hebdo and the freedom of speech

    Kyrgyztsan: 1,000 Muslims rally: “I am not Charlie, I love my Prophet.”

    But given a chance to show how Muslims overwhelmingly reject “extremism,” only a handful show up. Also, read their sign. “Revolution for world of humanity is the only solution,” says Imam Hayat. What kind of revolution?

    “We need to wage a jihad against the jihad’: French Muslims join mourners to condemn Paris attacks… But are they too late?,” by Jake Wallis Simons, Mailonline, November 17, 2015:


    As crowds continued to gather at the Place de la République last night, laying flowers and lighting candles in memory of the dead, a group French Muslims held up banners and started to chant.

    ‘Unite against brutality, unite for humanity!’ They shouted. ‘Killing any human is killing all mankind! Saving any human is saving all mankind!’

    Around 30 Muslims, all of Bangladeshi origin and living in Paris, felt they had to take a stand against Islamic extremism because – as they saw it – few other Muslims were willing to raise their voices.

    ‘Muslims are not being loud enough,’ Mohammad Hassan, 35, told MailOnline, ‘This needed to be done because some Muslims are afraid of coming out to say the truth.

    ‘About five percent of Muslims support the terrorists. The rest of them need to speak out. I wish more Muslims would join us here.

    ‘We swear we will fight against these monsters. Decent Muslims must stand up to them before it is too late.’

    Last night, Khalil Merroun, the rector of the Islamic Centre in Courcouronnes where Oman Mostefai, one of the suicide bombers, is thought to have attended, struck a similar note.

    ‘We need to wage a jihad against the jihad,’ he told MailOnline. ‘These kids want to change the world rather than themselves. We have to show the true face of Islam.’…
  2. 18 Nov '15 14:36
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wt9bMYcmUFg

    Turkish Muslims chant "Allah Akbar" as they hold a moment of silence at a soccer game for those slain in France.

    What are we to make of all this?
  3. Subscriber no1marauder
    It's Nice to Be Nice
    18 Nov '15 14:41
    Originally posted by whodey
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wt9bMYcmUFg

    Turkish Muslims chant "Allah Akbar" as they hold a moment of silence at a soccer game for those slain in France.

    What are we to make of all this?
    Do you know what "Allah Akbar" means?

    Probably won't get an accurate idea from Jihad Watch.
  4. Standard member RJHinds
    The Near Genius
    18 Nov '15 15:05 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by whodey
    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/11/france-only-30-muslims-show-up-for-rally-against-paris-jihad-attacks

    That's right, Muslims protested the violence in Paris, all 30 of them.

    That’s thirty Muslims out of around five million Muslims in France. This is not the first time that attendance at a Muslim rally against terrorism has been decidedly underwhelming. ...[text shortened]... kids want to change the world rather than themselves. We have to show the true face of Islam.’…
    They are not really protesting against Jihad attacks. All Muslims believe in Jihad. They are apparently a different fraction of Muslims that are on the opposite side of those that carried out the terrorists attacks in Paris. But at least it seems that some of the Muslims are waking up to the fact that not all terrorists attacks by Muslim extremists is a good thing for Islam.
  5. Standard member RJHinds
    The Near Genius
    18 Nov '15 15:10
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    Do you know what "Allah Akbar" means?

    Probably won't get an accurate idea from Jihad Watch.
    They are praising their god, which is Satan the devil.
  6. Subscriber no1marauder
    It's Nice to Be Nice
    18 Nov '15 15:18
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    They are praising their god, which is Satan the devil.
    Gee thanks for clearing that up.
  7. 18 Nov '15 15:20
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    They are not really protesting against Jihad attacks. All Muslims believe in Jihad. They are apparently a different fraction of Muslims that are on the opposite side of those that carried out the terrorists attacks in Paris. But at least it seems that some of the Muslims are waking up to the fact that not all terrorists attacks by Muslim extremists is a good thing for Islam.
    "All Muslims believe in Jihad."

    that's like saying all christians believe witches should be burned at the stake and the world was created in 6 days
  8. Standard member bill718
    Enigma
    18 Nov '15 15:33
    Originally posted by whodey
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wt9bMYcmUFg

    Turkish Muslims chant "Allah Akbar" as they hold a moment of silence at a soccer game for those slain in France.

    What are we to make of all this?
    What are we to make of all this?

    Well....I can make a hat, or a broach, or a pterodactyl !!
  9. 18 Nov '15 16:19
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    Do you know what "Allah Akbar" means?

    Probably won't get an accurate idea from Jihad Watch.
    I don't care if they were yelling the Star Spangled Banner.

    It was a moment of silence. They obviously were disrespecting those who had been killed.
  10. Standard member sonhouse
    Fast and Curious
    18 Nov '15 17:19 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by whodey
    I don't care if they were yelling the Star Spangled Banner.

    It was a moment of silence. They obviously were disrespecting those who had been killed.
    And you would know, having interviewed the lot of them so you know their minds.

    I don't suppose it occurred to you Muslims in France right now might feel afraid to go outdoors in the aftermath of that dastardly attacks on innocent ones.

    I gather that you feel there are no innocent Muslims just like the terrorists think there are no innocent white people.

    You think just like them.

    So instead of commending those who attended, you just attack them not knowing a thing about what they were actually thinking.

    Did you dis all the Jews who didn't attend also, or the Hindu's or Janes or Buddhists?

    Why weren't THEY there in their thousands?
  11. Subscriber no1marauder
    It's Nice to Be Nice
    18 Nov '15 17:21
    Originally posted by whodey
    I don't care if they were yelling the Star Spangled Banner.

    It was a moment of silence. They obviously were disrespecting those who had been killed.
    Learn something:

    Let it be clear: In Turkey (especially at football matches) a one minute silence is always used to chant for those who died in terrorist attacks.

    And what they are chanting is this “┼×ehitler ölmez, vatan bölünmez”. Translation: “Martyrs, they do not die (they are immortal), homeland (land, our land) is indivisible.”

    That is a habit from our past with the terrorist organisation PKK. More than 30,000 of our citizens died over the past 30 years by the PKK (including babies, women, children, teachers, officers, doctors, students and soldiers).

    In any event, after PKK terrorists kill someone in Turkey, people chant this. Below is a proof from one Turkish Premier League match:

    Same slogan “┼×ehitler ölmez, vatan bölünmez”.

    And also, they booed the terrorist, not the victims. Any victims of terrorism are accepted as martyrs in Turkish culture. There is no disrespect to them, there has not been, there will not be.

    http://www.101greatgoals.com/blog/an-explanation-for-why-turkey-fans-appeared-to-boo-minutes-silence-for-paris-attack-victims/
  12. Subscriber Sleepyguy
    Reepy Rastardly Guy
    18 Nov '15 18:04
    Originally posted by bill718
    What are we to make of all this?

    Well....I can make a hat, or a broach, or a pterodactyl !!
    Thumbs up for the obscure movie reference.

    YouTube
  13. 18 Nov '15 20:31
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    Learn something:

    Let it be clear: In Turkey (especially at football matches) a one minute silence is always used to chant for those who died in terrorist attacks.

    And what they are chanting is this “┼×ehitler ölmez, vatan bölünmez”. Translation: “Martyrs, they do not die (they are immortal), homeland (land, our land) is indivisible.”

    That is a ha ...[text shortened]... log/an-explanation-for-why-turkey-fans-appeared-to-boo-minutes-silence-for-paris-attack-victims/
    No comment on the low numbers of Muslims who have come out protesting these acts of violence?

    If I were a Muslim I would feel the need to show in mass that this is not acceptable.

    Otherwise, it is assumed that they are either indifferent or support them.
  14. 18 Nov '15 20:34
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    And you would know, having interviewed the lot of them so you know their minds.

    I don't suppose it occurred to you Muslims in France right now might feel afraid to go outdoors in the aftermath of that dastardly attacks on innocent ones.

    I gather that you feel there are no innocent Muslims just like the terrorists think there are no innocent white pe ...[text shortened]... ttend also, or the Hindu's or Janes or Buddhists?

    Why weren't THEY there in their thousands?
    You are right, I don't know what they are thinking. All we have are actions to judge them by.

    If I were a Muslim I would be plum scared as well. There is a breaking point in terms of putting up with this crap, where I don't know. If it were me, I would make a big public showing that this is not accepted by the vast majority of Muslims.

    Again, all we have are their actions. In fact, lip service often does precious little.
  15. Subscriber no1marauder
    It's Nice to Be Nice
    18 Nov '15 20:59
    Originally posted by whodey
    No comment on the low numbers of Muslims who have come out protesting these acts of violence?

    If I were a Muslim I would feel the need to show in mass that this is not acceptable.

    Otherwise, it is assumed that they are either indifferent or support them.
    I'm sure you and every member of your church group were out showing your stand against terrorism whenever an abortion clinic got bombed or a doctor shot by Christian zealots.

    Muslims all over the world demonstrated, took to social media and made public statements condemning the Paris attacks. But that's not information you're going to obtain from a hate site like Jihad Watch.

    You have an abiding hatred for Islam and its adherents so you are naturally going to assume they are all supporters of violence no matter what they do or say.