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  1. 11 Aug '10 12:38
    She called a minister they both trusted. He came over to the house the next day and worked with them the whole weekend, but Gingrich just kept saying she was a Jaguar and all he wanted was a Chevrolet. "'I can't handle a Jaguar right now.' He said that many times. 'All I want is a Chevrolet.'"

    He asked her to just tolerate the affair, an offer she refused.

    He'd just returned from Erie, Pennsylvania, where he'd given a speech full of high sentiments about compassion and family values.

    The next night, they sat talking out on their back patio in Georgia. She said, "How do you give that speech and do what you're doing?"

    "It doesn't matter what I do," he answered. "People need to hear what I have to say. There's no one else who can say what I can say. It doesn't matter what I live."


    Will this sorry excuse for a human being still run for President?
  2. Standard member sh76
    Civis Americanus Sum
    11 Aug '10 12:45
    Originally posted by TerrierJack
    She called a minister they both trusted. He came over to the house the next day and worked with them the whole weekend, but Gingrich just kept saying she was a Jaguar and all he wanted was a Chevrolet. "'I can't handle a Jaguar right now.' He said that many times. 'All I want is a Chevrolet.'"

    He asked her to just tolerate the affair, an offer she ref ...[text shortened]... live."


    Will this sorry excuse for a human being still run for President?
    He's right.

    Who cares what politicians do in their private lives (unless they commit serious crimes)? They're hired to govern, not to be Saints.
  3. 11 Aug '10 12:55 / 1 edit
    Will this sorry excuse for a human being still run for President?

    Why not? -- considering the current roster of GOP competitors, Newt would have to like his chances of winning his party's nomination.
  4. 11 Aug '10 13:03
    Originally posted by TerrierJack
    She called a minister they both trusted. He came over to the house the next day and worked with them the whole weekend, but Gingrich just kept saying she was a Jaguar and all he wanted was a Chevrolet. "'I can't handle a Jaguar right now.' He said that many times. 'All I want is a Chevrolet.'"

    He asked her to just tolerate the affair, an offer she ref ...[text shortened]... live."


    Will this sorry excuse for a human being still run for President?
    President Clinton comes to mind.....
  5. 11 Aug '10 13:06 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by sh76
    He's right.

    Who cares what politicians do in their private lives (unless they commit serious crimes)? They're hired to govern, not to be Saints.
    Except for the hypocrisy of being for "family values" and the sanctity of marriage and then leaving two wives for newer chevrolets.

    Also, do you think he wouldn't jump at the chance to exploit this of an opponent of his had this kind of thing came out?
  6. Standard member sh76
    Civis Americanus Sum
    11 Aug '10 13:29 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by PsychoPawn
    Except for the hypocrisy of being for "family values" and the sanctity of marriage and then leaving two wives for newer chevrolets.

    Also, do you think he wouldn't jump at the chance to exploit this of an opponent of his had this kind of thing came out?
    Maybe he'd jump on his opponent for the same thing; but that wouldn't make it right either. Let's assume he's a hypocrite on this issue. So what? Does he have good ideas about the economy or not? All the rest is hot air.

    I haven't listened to every word he's ever said, but when I hear Gingrich he's mostly talking about the economy and taxation, not family values.
  7. Subscriber Sleepyguy
    Reepy Rastardly Guy
    11 Aug '10 14:03 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by sh76
    Maybe he'd jump on his opponent for the same thing; but that wouldn't make it right either. Let's assume he's a hypocrite on this issue. So what? Does he have good ideas about the economy or not? All the rest is hot air.

    I haven't listened to every word he's ever said, but when I hear Gingrich he's mostly talking about the economy and taxation, not family values.
    Newt makes a decent talking head, but I think (hope) he's not viable as a candidate anymore. In addition to his disgusting history of breaking solemn vows to those he professes to love, he burned his last shred of credibility with tea partiers endorsing Scozzafava in NY 23. They're not going to forget that no matter how many times he schleps his latest book on Hannity, and those knives will come out the moment he puts his toe in a primary.
  8. Standard member sh76
    Civis Americanus Sum
    11 Aug '10 14:11
    Originally posted by Sleepyguy
    Newt makes a decent talking head, but I think (hope) he's not viable as a candidate anymore. In addition to his disgusting history of breaking solemn vows to those he professes to love, he burned his last shred of credibility with tea partiers endorsing Scozzafava in NY 23. They're not going to forget that no matter how many times he schleps his latest book on Hannity, and those knives will come out the moment he puts his toe in a primary.
    I'd be more worried about his latest book title "To Save America: Stopping Obama's Secular-Socialist Machine"

    That sort of sensationalism makes a serious candidate not.
  9. Subscriber Sleepyguy
    Reepy Rastardly Guy
    11 Aug '10 14:13
    Originally posted by sh76
    I'd be more worried about his latest book title "To Save America: Stopping Obama's Secular-Socialist Machine"

    That sort of sensationalism makes a serious candidate not.
    Yeah, well the tea partiers wouldn't vote for you either
  10. 11 Aug '10 14:16
    Originally posted by sh76
    Maybe he'd jump on his opponent for the same thing; but that wouldn't make it right either. Let's assume he's a hypocrite on this issue. So what? Does he have good ideas about the economy or not? All the rest is hot air.

    I haven't listened to every word he's ever said, but when I hear Gingrich he's mostly talking about the economy and taxation, not family values.
    Well, he's a politician so I'd be willing to bet that he'd attack an opponent for just the same kind of thing he would do and has done before.

    I agree that this isn't the highest priority issue and generally I'd overlook marital infidelity if I liked him on the other issues.

    Frankly, I just took a quick look and I couldn't find any specific quotes that show him to be a hypocrite on this issue.

    I don't really have a problem that he's had three wives, but the fact that he pressed his first wife for a divorce when she was on her death bed kinda leaves me with a bad taste in my mouth.
  11. 11 Aug '10 14:20 / 2 edits
    Originally posted by sh76
    I'd be more worried about his latest book title "To Save America: Stopping Obama's Secular-Socialist Machine"

    That sort of sensationalism makes a serious candidate not.
    you want there to be serious candidates?

    you think today's average voter hanging out at the local bar can "connect" with serious candidates?

    you're more likely to find a serious candidate in a box of Peek Freans.
  12. 11 Aug '10 14:32
    Originally posted by Sleepyguy
    Yeah, well the tea partiers wouldn't vote for you either
    But to win an election, you must appeal to moderate voters, not Tea Partiers.
  13. Subscriber Sleepyguy
    Reepy Rastardly Guy
    11 Aug '10 15:12
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    But to win an election, you must appeal to moderate voters, not Tea Partiers.
    To win a GOP primary? We'll see.
  14. Standard member MacSwain
    Who is John Galt?
    11 Aug '10 15:29
    Originally posted by TerrierJack
    She called a minister they both trusted. He came over to the house the next day and worked with them the whole weekend, but Gingrich just kept saying she was a Jaguar and all he wanted was a Chevrolet. "'I can't handle a Jaguar right now.' He said that many times. 'All I want is a Chevrolet.'"

    He asked her to just tolerate the affair, an offer she ref ...[text shortened]... live."


    Will this sorry excuse for a human being still run for President?
    Can you validate a source for these precise conversational notes?

    Was the phone tapped / Wife recorded their conversation / Trusted minister recorded, then leaked conversation <or> a post from a trustworthy blogger who happened to be present for the telephone call and also was in the room at the time of the ministers meeting with them?
  15. Standard member sh76
    Civis Americanus Sum
    11 Aug '10 15:30 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by Sleepyguy
    Yeah, well the tea partiers wouldn't vote for you either
    They might. I'd model my candidacy after Chris Christie. I'd go the the Tea Party and say,

    "Sure, low taxes are great and sure we want to keep government from becoming overinflated, but we can't continue having the lowest tax rates in the past 100 years when that's causing trillion dollar deficits. First, most of you guys won't be paying that much more. But to the extent that you do pay more, suck it and just pay it it's necessary for the good of the country that you are so filled to patriotic fervor for. We also need to cut government spending, but we can't have so many people out there with no health insurance. It's bad for them, bad for us and bad for the system. If you can afford it, suck it up and pay a few extra bucks so everyone can be covered. Pull yourself up by the bootstraps and stop whining. If you need a safety net when you lose your job, one will be there for you.

    Gun rights for all; buy and keep as many guns as you can afford, but really, do you need assault weapons? Really? Gay marriage? WTF do you care? You don't like gay marriage? Don't get married to a gay guy. For other people; ignore it.

    Go USA! Greatest country in the World! BOOYEAH! God bless you all and the United States of America!"

    They'll be eating out of my hand.