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    23 Jan '17 23:09
    http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/479-obama-had-lower-average-approval-rating-nixon-or-bush

    Obama couldn't even keep up with W. At least he can be Carter and Ford.
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    23 Jan '17 23:38
    Nah, pretty sure the numbers are rigged.

    #rigged #fakenews #hashtag
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    24 Jan '17 00:43
    Originally posted by Great King Rat
    Nah, pretty sure the numbers are rigged.

    #rigged #fakenews #hashtag
    RIgged, rigged, rigged!!

    King Rat is rigged, I'm rigged, we are all rigged!!!

    Rigged is rigged! 😲
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    24 Jan '17 04:35
    Originally posted by Eladar
    http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/479-obama-had-lower-average-approval-rating-nixon-or-bush

    Obama couldn't even keep up with W. At least he can be Carter and Ford.
    Try something neutral like wiki.
    Betcha Obama is top 20 in most pols.
    Betcha only Republicans above him are Lincoln and Reagan.
    Betcha Obama is remembered in 100 years.
    Betcha Trump is remembered in 100 years too. (For different reasons)
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    24 Jan '17 12:23
    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    Try something neutral like wiki.
    Betcha Obama is top 20 in most pols.
    Betcha only Republicans above him are Lincoln and Reagan.
    Betcha Obama is remembered in 100 years.
    Betcha Trump is remembered in 100 years too. (For different reasons)
    CBS is such a conservative bastion.
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    24 Jan '17 16:32
    Originally posted by Eladar
    http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/479-obama-had-lower-average-approval-rating-nixon-or-bush

    Obama couldn't even keep up with W. At least he can be Carter and Ford.
    😴😴😴
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    24 Jan '17 16:45
    Originally posted by mchill
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    I bet you voted for Carter lol

    But that election was much like this last one.
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    24 Jan '17 18:49
    Originally posted by mchill
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    Many of El's OPs are right wing nonsense, but an analysis of why Obama's average approval rating was so comparatively low is an interesting discussion point.

    My first thought would be that both Bushes pumped up their averages with extremely high approval ratings after national security issues unified the country (the Gulf War for Bush 41 and 9/11 for Bush 43) and that Obama was hurt by living in a hyper-partisan era (though Bush 43 may also have been hurt by the same).
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    24 Jan '17 18:501 edit
    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    Try something neutral like wiki.
    Betcha Obama is top 20 in most pols.
    Betcha only Republicans above him are Lincoln and Reagan.
    Betcha Obama is remembered in 100 years.
    Betcha Trump is remembered in 100 years too. (For different reasons)
    That chart is lifted from Gallup's website and is certainly genuine.

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/202742/obama-averages-job-approval-president.aspx?g_source=Politics&g_medium=newsfeed&g_campaign=tiles
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    24 Jan '17 18:57
    Right Wing nonsense? So you believe I am a Fascist?
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    24 Jan '17 20:10
    Originally posted by Eladar
    Right Wing nonsense? So you believe I am a Fascist?
    Ummmm... no.

    Those two things are not the same thing.

    If you insist on a label, I think you're a right wing Tea Party conservative who sometimes posts nonsense (but not in this case, per above).
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    24 Jan '17 20:11
    Originally posted by sh76
    Ummmm... no.

    Those two things are not the same thing.

    If you insist on a label, I think you're a right wing Tea Party conservative who sometimes posts nonsense (but not in this case, per above).
    Tea Party type, maybe but not even sure about that.

    I am not simply a cut taxes and don't support government responsibilities guy.
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    24 Jan '17 22:03
    Originally posted by Eladar
    Tea Party type, maybe but not even sure about that.

    I am not simply a cut taxes and don't support government responsibilities guy.
    And who likes to call people "libtards," allege wild conspiracy theories and wants to "throw Obama into the trash heap of history" (this is just from 3 of your recent OPs).
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    24 Jan '17 22:311 edit
    Originally posted by sh76
    And who likes to call people "libtards," allege wild conspiracy theories and wants to "throw Obama into the trash heap of history" (this is just from 3 of your recent OPs).
    What wild conspiracy theory.

    Idiot liberals are libtards. I do not associate them with Hitler.

    Obama needs to be thrown in the trash heap of history.
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    24 Jan '17 22:371 edit
    Originally posted by sh76 to Eladar
    And who likes to call people "libtards," allege wild conspiracy theories and wants to
    "throw Obama into the trash heap of history" (this is just from 3 of your recent OPs).
    The extreme right-wing troll Eladar has been a 'useful idiot' for the less insane conservative writers here.
    These writers have condoned Eladar's hateful nonsense whenever it seems expedient.
    These writers may not believe everything that Eladar said to attack Hillary Clinton, for instance,
    but they hardly attempted to correct Eladar because they regarded his wild attacks as useful.

    I would have more respect for such 'conservative' writers (including Sh76) if they had made
    more of an effort to put the lying troll Eladar on notice that not only 'libtards' know that he's wrong.
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