One: the ILLEGAL firing of ALL 11 inspectors general in all government offices.
The LAW for firing ONE inspectors general is to first give congress a THIRTY DAY notice and provide reasons for such firing.
Trumps reason: '' they don't line up with Trump POLICY''.
But IN THE DEAD OF NIGHT, firing ALL of them, NO notice to congress and NO reason other than that stated, first off they are there as our watchdogs and overseers of waste and corruption in government agencies, whether it is Democrat corruption or Republican corruption like bribery to get sweetheart deal government contracts, ALL out the window.
They are NOT to be toadies to Trump they are there SPECIFICALLY to root out waste in spending, bribery, and other forms of corruption and HAVE to be 100% bipartisan AND totally independent.
Even Republican senators are calling this one out.
The second is the firing of Jan 6 prosecutors who were doing their FUUKING JOBS of arresting and charging the rioters, called insurrectionists because they were trying to LITERALLY overthrow the government and the peaceful transfer of power BECAUSE TRUMP TOLD THEM TO.
So now 1500 pardons and hundreds of those charges are charged with violent crimes. It is an affront to the police AND their families those pardons happened.
And I said I wonder how long it would take for those violent criminals to do crimes again, and it is less than a week, one case already in Illinois, a traffic stop ended up in one of those VIOLENT criminals getting into an altercation with the police and they were shown to have weapons and got killed by the cops.
And a second case of another violent offender being arrested for ANOTHER crime.
So THAT S H I T show has already started and the firing of the inspectors general is LITERALLY a blatant attack on our democracy, And OF COURSE Trump doesn't want overseers of waste or bribery and the like because that is EXACTLY what he wants to do to benefit himself personally, THAT is the only reason a snake like Trump would fire ALL of them IN THE DEAD OF THE NIGHT.
So lets see all you ultrarightwingnuts, TOTAL law and order dudes defend both of those actions.
Investigating the investigators? For doing their fuuking JOB? Where is the outrage against this BLATANT attack on our very democacy?
BTW, going back to Trump's FIRST time in office, DAY ONE his VERY FIRST act as POTUS was an attempt, failed attempt but an attempt nonetheless, to kill the ETHICS committee.
That failed because Trump didn't have the deity status he has now with Trumpites, THIS time if he wanted to kill the ethics committee Trumpites would just go, HE HAD GOOD REASON.
But now the attacks are a hundred times worse for our democracy BESIDES the picks for high office like Kash Patel for FBI head, There is no doubt NOBODY worse for that position. And Tulsi Gabbard, a known Putin propagandist and speaking with the Syria dictator AND a Muslim cleric wanting to make bomb squads to bomb in the US and this is Trumps pick for INTEL chief?
Is there ANYONE on the right with ANY balls to push back against these obvious anti democracy agendas?
@sonhouse saidThis is what draining the swamp looks like.
One: the ILLEGAL firing of ALL 11 inspectors general in all government offices.
The LAW for firing ONE inspectors general is to first give congress a THIRTY DAY notice and provide reasons for such firing.
Trumps reason: '' they don't line up with Trump POLICY''.
But IN THE DEAD OF NIGHT, firing ALL of them, NO notice to congress and NO reason other than that stated, first ...[text shortened]... there ANYONE on the right with ANY balls to push back against these obvious anti democracy agendas?
Trump has full authority over IGs
A word for you to look up…PLENARY
Congress CANNOT constitutionally give itself powers over the executive branch.
@sonhouse said"They don't line up with Trump policy' is a perfectly sound and valid reason to fire them.
One: the ILLEGAL firing of ALL 11 inspectors general in all government offices.
The LAW for firing ONE inspectors general is to first give congress a THIRTY DAY notice and provide reasons for such firing.
Trumps reason: '' they don't line up with Trump POLICY''.
But IN THE DEAD OF NIGHT, firing ALL of them, NO notice to congress and NO reason other than that stated, first ...[text shortened]... there ANYONE on the right with ANY balls to push back against these obvious anti democracy agendas?
If you hire a fellow to manage your chicken farm and he is not doing it the way you want it done, you will fire him. But you do NOT want Trump to use that reason to fire someone.
oooooooohhhh. sonhouse
Someone else catch the next issue of his post, let us spread them all out amongst us.
@AverageJoe1 saidshathouse wants all those unelected bureaucrats (aka swamp)
"They don't line up with Trump policy' is a perfectly sound and valid reason to fire them.
If you hire a fellow to manage your chicken farm and he is not doing it the way you want it done, you will fire him. But you do NOT want Trump to use that reason to fire someone.
oooooooohhhh. sonhouse
Someone else catch the next issue of his post, let us spread them all out amongst us.
to stay in place. He does not understand why Trump was elected.
@AverageJoe1 saidPOTUS has no power over inspectors general, the whole idea is to have INDEPENDENT people not beholding to ANYONE where they can be oversight and watchdog over corruption of any kind, financial, bribery, whatever.
"They don't line up with Trump policy' is a perfectly sound and valid reason to fire them.
If you hire a fellow to manage your chicken farm and he is not doing it the way you want it done, you will fire him. But you do NOT want Trump to use that reason to fire someone.
oooooooohhhh. sonhouse
Someone else catch the next issue of his post, let us spread them all out amongst us.
When Trump wants to fire all of them, he is clearly signaling he doesn't WANT oversight to anything he wants to do which is a clear sign what he wants will be illegal.
AND it is illegal RIGHT now, there is a law about that, first, a 30 day notice of a firing AND congress will be involved.
THEN a reason, a REAL reason not a BS line like it is not in our policy, THIS IS NOT POLICY, this is a direct threat to our democracy, NO oversight if inspectors generals are gone, NOBODY can delve into what is going on in all 11 organizations.
The whole idea is to have people who can suss out illegal activity.
THIS IS A LAW AND ORDER idea. You have problems with that too?
Remember a hundred years ago when the republican party was the party of
and I quote "LAW AND ORDER"?
You need to look into the history of inspectors general and the laws associated with them.
I don't see how you can call yourself a lawyer and not even know why IG's were put in place and how they were implmented.
Oh I forgot, NOW you say you are not a lawyer but licensed in two states.
@Mott-The-Hoople said"The Inspector General Act of 1978 (IG Act) establishes the responsibilities and authorities of Inspectors General (IGs) in the federal government. The IG Act also defines the relationship between IGs and agency heads and Congress.
This is what draining the swamp looks like.
Trump has full authority over IGs
A word for you to look up…PLENARY
Congress CANNOT constitutionally give itself powers over the executive branch.
Responsibilities
Audits and investigations: IGs conduct independent audits, investigations, and inspections.
Reporting: IGs report to the agency head and Congress. They keep both parties informed about problems, deficiencies, and the progress of corrective actions.
Preventing fraud and abuse: IGs work to prevent and detect waste, fraud, and abuse.
Promoting efficiency: IGs promote economy, efficiency, and effectiveness in agency operations.
Reviewing legislation: IGs review pending legislation and regulations.
Authorities
Access to records: IGs have full access to all agency records and materials.
Subpoenas: IGs can issue administrative subpoenas to nonfederal entities.
Law enforcement: IGs can exercise law enforcement authority.
Referrals: IGs can refer criminal and civil matters to the United States Attorney General.
Hiring: IGs can hire employees, experts, and consultants.
Removal
The President can remove an IG from office.
The President must communicate the reasons for removal to both Houses of Congress within 30 days."
Notice it says can remove AN IG, ONE IG, not all of them.
Removing all of them is a clear signal Trump does not want ANYONE peering into the corruption he has planned. There is no other interpretation of that disgusting move.
The whole idea of IGs is to watch out for waste and fraud.
To get rid of them is a clear intent to do exactly that.
Another example of Trumps push to be a dictator.
@sonhouse saidCome on now, don’t confuse them with facts. Their only fact is “Trump Won”. Anything other than that doesn’t exist for them.
"The Inspector General Act of 1978 (IG Act) establishes the responsibilities and authorities of Inspectors General (IGs) in the federal government. The IG Act also defines the relationship between IGs and agency heads and Congress.
Responsibilities
Audits and investigations: IGs conduct independent audits, investigations, and inspections.
Reporting: IGs report to the ag ...[text shortened]... id of them is a clear intent to do exactly that.
Another example of Trumps push to be a dictator.
@Mott-The-Hoople saidIGs are tasked with rooting out government corruption. So, not sure how firing them drains the swamp.
This is what draining the swamp looks like.
Trump has full authority over IGs
A word for you to look up…PLENARY
Congress CANNOT constitutionally give itself powers over the executive branch.
Combined with the groveling of billionaires at Trump's doorstep, I suspect we will see a smaller number of people enjoying a swamp that grows in size.
@AverageJoe1 saidMy point, to belabor the obvious, is that just saying that someone won doesn’t mean you can ignore existing law at your whim. The Fuehrer believes that and sounds like you do also.
The fact that means something, to us, if you will be patient, Istyrabbit, is that "Trump is Winning". The won part is past history, like Sonhouse posts!!