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  1. 02 Dec '09 19:05 / 1 edit
    Since Obama's oratory skills are so severely lacking, and since he sounds like a bumbling idiot off-script - I thought I would post some (unedited) footage for your own amusement. Seriously, you have to see this stuff for a good laugh! I really miss Bush's eloquence. :o(

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofQ5Ci-fg_w
    Townhall Debate: 2:15 into the video

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHe8N5hL0Wo
    60 Minute interview

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_753sLQQ8q8
    O'Rielly Interview

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znZkxN0Ks0M
    C-Span Interview

    OK, seriously now that the sarcasm is out of the way.... this whole "Obama's teleprompter" mantra is nothing more than Republicans trying to trivialize one of Obama's greatest strengths - his speaking ability. Without question Obama can deliver a knockout speech, and with the exception of the ulra-partisans I don't think anyone can disagree with that. Well, except for Brit Hume of Fox News - who after Obama's 'perfect union' speech said simply, "well the first thing that came to mind is he was reading the speech and not reading it well..." LOL! Yeah, OK.

    Need more? Remember when Samuel Wurzelbacher aka "Joe" the "Plumber" walked up to Obama and asked a hypothetical question based on false claims? Here's the rarely seen full footage of that encounter. Notice that in the end Obama's full response draws applause from the bystanders, and even an approving smile and handshake from Samuel.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lte8YOtEYbU
  2. Standard member sh76
    Civis Americanus Sum
    02 Dec '09 19:36
    Originally posted by USArmyParatrooper
    Since Obama's oratory skills are so severely lacking, and since he sounds like a bumbling idiot off-script - I thought I would post some (unedited) footage for your own amusement. Seriously, you have to see this stuff for a good laugh! I really miss Bush's eloquence. :o(

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofQ5Ci-fg_w
    Townhall Debate: 2:15 into the ...[text shortened]... ile and handshake from Samuel.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lte8YOtEYbU
    Interesting clip on Joe the Plumber.

    Now I have just one itty bitty little question for the President...

    When are you going to DO all of those things you were talking about in the clip?

    Seeing it as the President is unlikely to visit this forum, I welcome educated guesses from any surrogate?
  3. 02 Dec '09 19:39 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by sh76
    Interesting clip on Joe the Plumber.

    Now I have just one itty bitty little question for the President...

    When are you going to DO all of those things you were talking about in the clip?

    Seeing it as the President is unlikely to visit this forum, I welcome educated guesses from any surrogate?
    In reality: in that clip he's speaking about why we have a progressive tax system. But to answer your question he's income tax ideas have already largely been implemented.

    Edit: In staying on subject, would you not at least agree that Obama is a great speaker, both, on and off script?
  4. 02 Dec '09 19:41 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by USArmyParatrooper
    Since Obama's oratory skills are so severely lacking, and since he sounds like a bumbling idiot off-script - I thought I would post some (unedited) footage for your own amusement. Seriously, you have to see this stuff for a good laugh! I really miss Bush's eloquence. :o(

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofQ5Ci-fg_w
    Townhall Debate: 2:15 into the ile and handshake from Samuel.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lte8YOtEYbU
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4gFdKuMYL8

    Heres one you missed hero.
    This shows he is an idiot.
  5. Standard member Seitse
    Doug Stanhope
    02 Dec '09 19:43
    To see everything black or white.

    Children do that. Conservatives as well.

    Draw your conclusions.
  6. 02 Dec '09 19:45
    Originally posted by utherpendragon
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4gFdKuMYL8

    Heres one you missed hero.
    This shows he is an idiot.
    I only included unedited, complete footage of interviews with Obama.

    Some youtube cut-snip-paste job does not negate HOURS worth of raw footage.
  7. 02 Dec '09 19:48
    Originally posted by USArmyParatrooper
    I only included unedited, complete footage of interviews with Obama.

    Some youtube cut-snip-paste job does not negate HOURS worth of raw footage.
    Do yourself a favor and listen to it.
    Was his saying he was in 57 states a cut-snip-paste job? No. it was him talking w/out a script
  8. 02 Dec '09 19:48
    Originally posted by utherpendragon
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4gFdKuMYL8

    Heres one you missed hero.
    This shows he is an idiot.
    that doesn't make you an idiot, claiming you never stop thinking about ways to harm your own country makes you an idiot.
  9. 02 Dec '09 19:52 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by utherpendragon
    Do yourself a favor and listen to it.
    Was his saying he was in 57 states a cut-snip-paste job? No. it was him talking w/out a script
    Of course it's a cut-snip-and paste job. The whole audio clip is exactly that.

    How does Obama misspeaking and saying 57 instead of 47 make him an idiot?

    BTW, feel free to post an entire interview that demonstrates your point. There are lots to choose from.

    WATCH THIS! HE WON'T POST ONE!

    Do I have your number?
  10. Standard member sh76
    Civis Americanus Sum
    02 Dec '09 19:58
    Originally posted by USArmyParatrooper
    In reality: in that clip he's speaking about why we have a progressive tax system. But to answer your question he's income tax ideas have already largely been implemented.

    Edit: In staying on subject, would you not at least agree that Obama is a great speaker, both, on and off script?
    === But to answer your question he's income tax ideas have already largely been implemented.===

    Really, now? Can you point to all the changes in the Internal Revenue Code that have been enacted since he became President? Here's a hint: There haven't been many. A cigarette tax hike here, some similar small fry thing there. The income tax rates are still at Bush levels. His whole plan, as relayed in his speech to Joe the Plumber has been ignored to this point. Maybe it's because of the recession, but the fact remains.

    ===Edit: In staying on subject, would you not at least agree that Obama is a great speaker, both, on and off script?===

    I was very impressed with his performance in being interviewed by Bill O'Reilly. He held his own in a long interview against a fellow who was clearly out to "beat" him... even on grounds on which he was very shaky, such as his initial opposition to the Iraqi surge.

    So, yes, I think that Obama is a very intelligent and very articulate person. You don't become editor in chief of Harvard Law Review if you're an idiot.

    I also think that Bush, although not nearly as intelligent as Obama, was much more intelligent than you and many others give him credit for. Every President is going to have some slip ups now and then. Do you know how many times they speak into a mic? Do you know how little sleep they operate on sometimes? Even Obama has had his fair share of mistakes on front of the mic.
  11. Standard member DrKF
    incipit parodia
    02 Dec '09 20:00
    Originally posted by utherpendragon
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4gFdKuMYL8

    Heres one you missed hero.
    This shows he is an idiot.
    But put along-side the clips in the OP, it proves only that he too can stumble. But even the best speakers can do that, as I'm sure you'll agree. The non-partisan would take the rounded view, I'm sure.

    (I mean, even the great Winston Churchill, who apparently said "Man will occasionally stumble upon the truth, however, most of the time he will pick himself and continue on" probably meant for there to be an 'up' in there somewhere. It's that sort of thing that comes back to haunt a man.)
  12. 02 Dec '09 20:20
    Originally posted by USArmyParatrooper
    Of course it's a cut-snip-and paste job. The whole audio clip is exactly that.

    How does Obama misspeaking and saying 57 instead of 47 make him an idiot?

    BTW, feel free to post an entire interview that demonstrates your point. There are lots to choose from.

    WATCH THIS! HE WON'T POST ONE!

    Do I have your number?
    no,you aint got my number yet.
  13. 02 Dec '09 20:29
    Originally posted by sh76
    === But to answer your question he's income tax ideas have already largely been implemented.===

    Really, now? Can you point to all the changes in the Internal Revenue Code that have been enacted since he became President? Here's a hint: There haven't been many. A cigarette tax hike here, some similar small fry thing there. The income tax rates are still at Bu ...[text shortened]... perate on sometimes? Even Obama has had his fair share of mistakes on front of the mic.
    I really was not impressed with Bush AT ALL. And I'm not only talking about his gaffs, I'm talking about during the debates and in every interview. I always felt like I could find more insight and depth at a high school keg party.
  14. Standard member smw6869
    Granny
    02 Dec '09 21:25
    Originally posted by utherpendragon
    Do yourself a favor and listen to it.
    Was his saying he was in 57 states a cut-snip-paste job? No. it was him talking w/out a script
    Obama was referring to the 57 states of Islam. This was no mistake.

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2078696/posts

    How's dem apples ?

    GRANNY.
  15. Standard member DrKF
    incipit parodia
    02 Dec '09 22:34
    Originally posted by smw6869
    Obama was referring to the 57 states of Islam. This was no mistake.

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2078696/posts

    How's dem apples ?

    GRANNY.
    You can paint a ball of tin foil red, but that doesn't make it an apple...

    Did you read the comments underneath? Yowser.

    "So maybe Obama was speaking in code when he said there were 57 states? I myself doubt it — it was probably just a gaffe, but there’s always the conspiracy contingent that can keep this alive for us."

    very next comment!

    "Not likely, it was another Freudian slip.

    HUSSEIN knows all about allah, and muhammed, and the 57 states that bow to him 5 times a day.

    What is amazing is how so many can be fooled by this crypto-muslim so easily, in the face of irrefutable evidence that he was raised muslim."