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  1. 23 Jul '14 03:20
    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/07/22/breaking-down-todays-conflicting-obamacare-court-rulings/

    It looks like the way the law was written only states can provide subsidies, and not the federal government who is doing this now.

    Looks like justice Roberts will need to get his white out and crayons out again.
  2. 23 Jul '14 18:31 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by whodey
    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/07/22/breaking-down-todays-conflicting-obamacare-court-rulings/

    It looks like the way the law was written only states can provide subsidies, and not the federal government who is doing this now.

    Looks like justice Roberts will need to get his white out and crayons out again.
    It doesn't matter what the laws says. The only thing that does matter is the spirit of the law.

    That's how you can pass a law without knowing what it says, but then try to make it say what you thought it was saying.
  3. Standard member RJHinds
    The Near Genius
    25 Jul '14 07:01
    Originally posted by Eladar
    It doesn't matter what the laws says. The only thing that does matter is the spirit of the law.

    That's how you can pass a law without knowing what it says, but then try to make it say what you thought it was saying.
    If most of American voters think like you do, it is no wonder we get people like Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, and Barrack Obama controlling the Democratic party and the Nation.
  4. 25 Jul '14 11:03 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by Eladar
    It doesn't matter what the laws says. The only thing that does matter is the spirit of the law.

    That's how you can pass a law without knowing what it says, but then try to make it say what you thought it was saying.
    I have no doubt that SCOTUS will rubber stamp it for the Executive branch again. That has been their function for well over a century now. The onbly question is, how?
  5. Donation kirksey957
    Outkast
    25 Jul '14 22:22
    Originally posted by whodey
    I have no doubt that SCOTUS will rubber stamp it for the Executive branch again. That has been their function for well over a century now. The onbly question is, how?
    When you say "rubber stamp", what do you mean?
  6. Standard member RJHinds
    The Near Genius
    25 Jul '14 23:15
    Originally posted by kirksey957
    When you say "rubber stamp", what do you mean?
    "rubber stamp" = automatic approval
  7. Donation kirksey957
    Outkast
    25 Jul '14 23:27
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    "rubber stamp" = automatic approval
    Translation: "I didn't have it my way. Whaaaa!"
  8. Standard member RJHinds
    The Near Genius
    25 Jul '14 23:31
    Originally posted by kirksey957
    Translation: "I didn't have it my way. Whaaaa!"
    You got it.
  9. 26 Jul '14 01:46 / 2 edits
    Originally posted by whodey
    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/07/22/breaking-down-todays-conflicting-obamacare-court-rulings/

    It looks like the way the law was written only states can provide subsidies, and not the federal government who is doing this now.

    Looks like justice Roberts will need to get his white out and crayons out again.
    http://reason.com/blog/2014/07/24/watch-obamacare-architect-jonathan-grube

    In 2012, Jonathan Gruber, Obamacare architect / maven / moonbat operative, said (paraphrased / edited by me), "Obamacare subsidies are limited to state-run exchanges. What’s important to remember politically about this is if you're a [republican] state and you don’t set up an exchange, that means your citizens don't get their tax credits—but your citizens still pay the taxes that support this bill. So you’re essentially saying to your citizens you’re going to pay all the taxes to help all the other states in the country. Because citizens want their precious subsidies, citizens will vote for democrats in state elections if the state does not set up an exchange, hehe."

    By 2014, only a few states actually set up exchanges because the implementation of Obamacare proved to be a gigantic cluster---k. Odumbo's pen and phone made Obamacare so unpredictable that states let the feds set up the exchanges. Because of this reality, Odumbo used his pen and phone to change Obamacare yet again. Odumbo's new regulation applied Obamacare subsidies to all states even if they did not have a state-run exchange.

    Odumbo's subsidy regulation was later challenged in Halbig v. Burwell. In July 2014, the DC Circuit agreed with Gruber and Halbig that Obamacare subsidies are limited to state-run exchanges, and it struck down Odumbo's regulation.

    In response to the Halbig ruling, Gruber said earlier this week on MSNBC, "It is unambiguous that [the language limiting subsidies to state-run exchanges is] a typo. Literally every single person involved in the crafting of this law has said that it's a typo, that they had no intention of excluding the federal states. ...It is just simply a typo, and it is really criminal that this has even made it as far as it has."



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    2012: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34rttqLh12U

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbMmWhfZyEI

    2014: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yy3TWvBtdOg (watch Gruber snicker in the background after Reid talks about the political ramifications of the Halbig decision for republicans)
  10. 26 Jul '14 02:35
    Hey now, let's not get caught up in facts here. We are talking about the US government here.