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  1. 14 Jul '10 03:05
    http://hotair.com/archives/2010/07/06/economist-poll-obama-at-42/

    In July, Obama's overall approval rating has dropped to 42% and his disapproval rating has risen to 49%.

    Breaking this further down, Democrats favor Obama 81/15, Republicans oppose him 7/89, but the most telling statistic are independents who oppose him 34/60.

    It seems that younger voters still support him the most as where support amongst seniors has bottomed out.

    In addition, 55% of those polled believe Obama is a socialist!! Obviously most of these people are uneducated and not privy to the criteria layed out here at RHP for being a socialist.

    So considering these numbers, what must Obama do politically to survive in November and 2012? As everyone knows, people vote with the pocket books. So with an never ending economic apocolypse looming on the horizen with no jobs and soon to be increasing taxation, what hope does he have?
  2. 14 Jul '10 03:49
    Originally posted by whodey
    http://hotair.com/archives/2010/07/06/economist-poll-obama-at-42/

    In July, Obama's overall approval rating has dropped to 42% and his disapproval rating has risen to 49%.

    Breaking this further down, Democrats favor Obama 81/15, Republicans oppose him 7/89, but the most telling statistic are independents who oppose him 34/60.

    It seems that younger vot ...[text shortened]... looming on the horizen with no jobs and soon to be increasing taxation, what hope does he have?
    Poll numbers from "Last week" as of 6 July.

    http://www.gallup.com/Home.aspx

    Gallup has him at 48 approve, 45 disapprove as of their latest data.

    I hope we're both still posting on here when he's reelected in 2012. I can't wait to laugh.
  3. 14 Jul '10 06:19
    Originally posted by whodey
    http://hotair.com/archives/2010/07/06/economist-poll-obama-at-42/

    In July, Obama's overall approval rating has dropped to 42% and his disapproval rating has risen to 49%.

    Breaking this further down, Democrats favor Obama 81/15, Republicans oppose him 7/89, but the most telling statistic are independents who oppose him 34/60.

    It seems that younger vot ...[text shortened]... looming on the horizen with no jobs and soon to be increasing taxation, what hope does he have?
    "In addition, 55% of those polled believe Obama is a socialist!! Obviously most of these people are uneducated and not privy to the criteria layed out here at RHP for being a socialist. "

    Indeed.
  4. 14 Jul '10 06:21
    Originally posted by USArmyParatrooper
    Poll numbers from "Last week" as of 6 July.

    http://www.gallup.com/Home.aspx

    Gallup has him at 48 approve, 45 disapprove as of their latest data.

    I hope we're both still posting on here when he's reelected in 2012. I can't wait to laugh.
    Seems like a done deal, unless something drastic happens. It's hard to see not at least some significant economic and public finances improvement by 2012, and everyone knows it's the economy, stupid.
  5. Subscriber FMF
    a.k.a. John W Booth
    14 Jul '10 06:25
    What percentage believe he is a Muslim?
  6. 14 Jul '10 10:25
    Originally posted by USArmyParatrooper
    Poll numbers from "Last week" as of 6 July.

    http://www.gallup.com/Home.aspx

    Gallup has him at 48 approve, 45 disapprove as of their latest data.

    I hope we're both still posting on here when he's reelected in 2012. I can't wait to laugh.
    LOL
    Obama is a one term President all the way. And no I am not gonna bet my user name on it or my account so dont even ask USAP!
    I think Ol Newt would be great as the next Pres.
  7. 14 Jul '10 11:06
    Originally posted by FMF
    What percentage believe he is a Muslim?
    Only 10% believe he is a Muslim. About 50% identify him as a Christian and the rest are clueless.
  8. 14 Jul '10 11:08 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by utherpendragon
    LOL
    Obama is a one term President all the way. And no I am not gonna bet my user name on it or my account so dont even ask USAP!
    I think Ol Newt would be great as the next Pres.
    One of my main beefs are the unemployment numbers which are always on the low side. There are simply too many people out there not counted simply because they are no longer drawing benefits. This is a problem they can try to dodge by playing with numbers and lying to the American people but at the end of the day you are going to the polls either employed or unemployed.
  9. Subscriber FMF
    a.k.a. John W Booth
    14 Jul '10 11:27
    Originally posted by whodey
    Only 10% believe he is a Muslim. About 50% identify him as a Christian and the rest are clueless.
    I think you'll find that, of the 40-odd percent that disapprove of him, the figure who think he is a Muslim is higher than 10%.
  10. 14 Jul '10 11:29
    Originally posted by FMF
    I think you'll find that, of the 40-odd percent that disapprove of him, the figure who think he is a Muslim is higher than 10%.
    Probably, just like the percentage of "truthers" are probably higher in the Democratic party. However, their numbers are probably comparable to those who believe Obama is a Muslim.
  11. Subscriber FMF
    a.k.a. John W Booth
    14 Jul '10 11:46
    Originally posted by whodey
    Probably, just like the percentage of "truthers" are probably higher in the Democratic party. However, their numbers are probably comparable to those who believe Obama is a Muslim.
    Maybe. But I would have thought that "truthers" to a large degree number amongst the 40% percent or so who do not vote in elections because being a "truther" is like almost completely withdrawing from political reality and the mainstream two party discourse. On the other hand the Obama-is-a-Muslim thing, which has much higher figures among FOX News viewers for example, is part and parcel of a 'clever' smear campaign that Fox has carried out in the service of its GOP talking point driven agenda. So I'd say you're probably wrong, although it is just conjecture vs conjecture.
  12. 14 Jul '10 12:19
    Originally posted by FMF
    Maybe. But I would have thought that "truthers" to a large degree number amongst the 40% percent or so who do not vote in elections because being a "truther" is like almost completely withdrawing from political reality and the mainstream two party discourse. On the other hand the Obama-is-a-Muslim thing, which has much higher figures among FOX News viewer ...[text shortened]... agenda. So I'd say you're probably wrong, although it is just conjecture vs conjecture.
    Having said that, it appear that claiming Obama a socialist is mainstream. Of course, Whodey is one of them despite the objections from many here at RHP. For example, Obama wanted national health care, but all he could manage was Obamacare. It was the next best thing. Although he may not champion every cause or policy that is socialist, he is a politician who knows what he has to do, or thinks he knows what he has to do, in order to survive politically. This means championing policies that are on the road to socialism rather than a revolution over night which he knows will not occur.
  13. Subscriber FMF
    a.k.a. John W Booth
    14 Jul '10 13:21
    Originally posted by whodey
    Having said that, it appear that claiming Obama a socialist is mainstream.
    Yes, it has some traction on the right, I've noticed that. I don't remember any socialists - or even left leaning centrists - calling Obama a socialist, though. So, when you choose to call Obama a Communist or a socialist or Nazi or talk about how he is taking away your freedom of speech or that he is threatening to intorduce 'death panels', whodey, you may simply be exemplifying the intended impact of right wing smears and the spreading of inchoate paranoia, as is your rather unselfconscious wont.
  14. 14 Jul '10 14:30 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by whodey
    Having said that, it appear that claiming Obama a socialist is mainstream. Of course, Whodey is one of them despite the objections from many here at RHP. For example, Obama wanted national health care, but all he could manage was Obamacare. It was the next best thing. Although he may not champion every cause or policy that is socialist, he is a politician ...[text shortened]... are on the road to socialism rather than a revolution over night which he knows will not occur.
    Whodey, a set of "socialist" policies does not even exist. Socialism as an ideology is very diverse and has many different (partial) implementations in terms of policy. For example, there is little overlap between Stalinist communism and capitalism-based social liberalism. Then again, I've told you this several times and yet you never appear to be inclined to investigate what "socialism" means - apart from the Fox News picture of it.
  15. 14 Jul '10 14:54
    Originally posted by FMF
    Yes, it has some traction on the right, I've noticed that. I don't remember any socialists - or even left leaning centrists - calling Obama a socialist, though. So, when you choose to call Obama a Communist or a socialist or Nazi or talk about how he is taking away your freedom of speech or that he is threatening to intorduce 'death panels', whodey, you may simp ...[text shortened]... wing smears and the spreading of inchoate paranoia, as is your rather unselfconscious wont.
    But you are the one smearing me. For example, I never said Obama was a Nazi, all I said was that he is a socialist at heart. I suppose in FMF world Nazi/socialist are one in the same. Go figure?