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    18 Mar '18 13:351 edit
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ohio-student-suspended-for-staying-in-class-during-walkouts/ar-BBKikzU?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp

    I'm sure you have all read this by now. An Ohio student was given a choice as to whether he would protest guns with students or leave class and go to study hall if he did not believe in protesting guns.

    His response? He said that school was not the venue for political activism and did not wish to pick either side. No, he was there to learn and so he stayed where he was suppose to stay, which was in class.

    Well they suspended the boy. Sad, just sad.

    The father should sue the entire school district.

    It is what conservatives have known all along, school is not about education, it's about indoctrination. How dare they plan a protest during a time when tax payers are paying the state to educate their children.

    This is an outrage.
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    18 Mar '18 15:03
    200 students punished for participating in a protest to try and stop mass shootings from happening: 

    https://www.10tv.com/article/school-issue-200-detentions-over-student-walkouts
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    18 Mar '18 16:40
    Originally posted by @whodey
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ohio-student-suspended-for-staying-in-class-during-walkouts/ar-BBKikzU?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp

    I'm sure you have all read this by now. An Ohio student was given a choice as to whether he would protest guns with students or leave class and go to study hall if he did not believe in protesting guns.

    His response? He ...[text shortened]... ng a time when tax payers are paying the state to educate their children.

    This is an outrage.
    Amazing!

    What you pick up from that story is that conservatives believe that school indoctrinates (yeah... the round planet, gravity and maths are soooooooo dependent on view, rather than fact!).

    What you should pick up on is: why on Earth is somebody getting punished?
    Why is there so much emphesis on punishment in your society?
    And what should be done about this drive to punish people?

    On a side note: any teenager wanting to stay in class obviously is a complete nutter and should be placed on an FBI monitoring list... that’s plainly an accident waiting to happen.
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    18 Mar '18 16:49
    Originally posted by @whodey
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ohio-student-suspended-for-staying-in-class-during-walkouts/ar-BBKikzU?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp

    I'm sure you have all read this by now. An Ohio student was given a choice as to whether he would protest guns with students or leave class and go to study hall if he did not believe in protesting guns.

    His response? He ...[text shortened]... ng a time when tax payers are paying the state to educate their children.

    This is an outrage.
    Remember that other you started where I pointed out how you guys spin propaganda? Well here we go again.

    The student wasn't suspended refusing political activism. He was suspended for not going to study hall, which was the other option if a student didn't want to protest.

    If that kid was "there to learn", why didn't he go to study hall, and, you know....study?

    Whodey, your posts are full of crap.
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    18 Mar '18 20:42
    Originally posted by @whodey
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ohio-student-suspended-for-staying-in-class-during-walkouts/ar-BBKikzU?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp

    I'm sure you have all read this by now. An Ohio student was given a choice as to whether he would protest guns with students or leave class and go to study hall if he did not believe in protesting guns.

    His response? He ...[text shortened]... ng a time when tax payers are paying the state to educate their children.

    This is an outrage.
    OH Dear. They temporarily suspended one kid. The Horror! The Shame! The Trauma! I'm sure this one kid will be emotionally scarred for life! What on earth are we to do??



    Your fetish with trivia is rather amusing though! 🙂
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    18 Mar '18 20:59
    Originally posted by @vivify
    Remember that other you started where I pointed out how you guys spin propaganda? Well here we go again.

    The student wasn't suspended refusing political activism. He was suspended for not going to study hall, which was the other option if a student didn't want to protest.

    If that kid was "there to learn", why didn't he go to study hall, and, you know....study?

    Whodey, your posts are full of crap.
    A thorough reading of the event in question reveals that positioning himself in either of the designated spots was, in his mind, voicing an opinion on the matter.
    The only way to voice an "unaffiliated" position was to do exactly what he did, i.e., choose neither of what the school offered to address the special circumstance.
    Ironic that the one place specifically designated and set aside as the nexus of the educational experience--- the classroom--- was off limits and out of bounds during the otherwise informal polling process.

    Ancillary issue to the absurdity of the mini-crisis, which was attempted throughout the country, largely with little to no ballyhoo, is the burning question: what adult prompted any of these clueless children to join in on the conversation?
    Who is (metaphorically) patting these kids on the bum, whispering encouragment to 'go on out there and tell them'?
    What rises to the level of moral indignation for today's children/young men and women is the inconvenience of poor WiFi coverage, but we're supposed to believe these walk-outs were organic and self-conceived?

    What's worse: the monstrosity of the act, or those who are using it to progress their own agenda, willing to employ anyone, anything to achieve their desired end?
    Despicable.
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    18 Mar '18 21:56
    Originally posted by @freakykbh
    A thorough reading of the event in question reveals that positioning himself in either of the designated spots was, in his mind, voicing an opinion on the matter.
    The only way to voice an "unaffiliated" position was to do exactly what he did, i.e., choose neither of what the school offered to address the special circumstance.
    Ironic that the one ...[text shortened]... their own agenda, willing to employ anyone, anything to achieve their desired end?
    Despicable.
    Kids today are bright, attuned and stay informed of current global events. The resources and information at their finger-tips are myriad and incredible. Good thing too...their future depends upon it.

    Conservatives are frustrated. They have been unable to program this generation to vote against its own interests as they successfully done in the past.

    The argument that somehow our victimized children here in Florida are being manipulated to demonstrate...is a mere projection of the obsolete methods used by conservatives past.

    If one watches conservatives closely: What bothers them most...are the things they project... while staring in a mirror.
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    18 Mar '18 22:081 edit
    Originally posted by @freakykbh
    A thorough reading of the event in question reveals that positioning himself in either of the designated spots was, in his mind, voicing an opinion on the matter.
    The only way to voice an "unaffiliated" position was to do exactly what he did, i.e., choose neither of what the school offered to address the special circumstance.
    That's idiotic. Simply not going with the other students could be viewed as taking a side, regardless of whether he stayed in the classroom or went to study hall.

    The student also had the option of staying home if he didn't want to "take a side".
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    18 Mar '18 22:191 edit
    Originally posted by @vivify
    That's idiotic. Simply not going with the other students could be viewed as taking a side, regardless of whether he stayed in the classroom or went to study hall.

    The student also had the option of staying home if he didn't want to "take a side".
    No, it's not idiotic.
    In fact, it's nowhere near idiotic.
    It's reasoned and it holds up to scrutiny, which may be the cause of your inability to recognize it.
    I purposely left out the fourth option, as it presumes cowardice... which this student (apparently) is not so afflicted.
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    18 Mar '18 22:24
    Originally posted by @wolfe63
    Kids today are bright, attuned and stay informed of current global events. The resources and information at their finger-tips are myriad and incredible. Good thing too...their future depends upon it.

    Conservatives are frustrated. They have been unable to program this generation to vote against its own interests as they successfully done in the past.

    T ...[text shortened]... ives closely: What bothers them most...are the things they project... while staring in a mirror.
    No one said kids are not bright.
    But the rest of your description demonstrates: you either have little to no exposure to them, or you simply aren't paying attention.

    Kids today are just like kids of last year, and the century before that: consciously apolitical.
    They consider adults insane and the political world in which adults move the most useless waste of time, energy and resources in addition to causing the most damage and needless interruptions to the daily life.
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    18 Mar '18 22:261 edit
    Originally posted by @freakykbh
    No, it's not idiotic.
    In fact, it's nowhere near idiotic.
    It's reasoned and it holds up to scrutiny, which may be the cause of your inability to recognize it.
    I purposely left out the fourth option, as it presumes cowardice... which this student (apparently) is not so afflicted.
    Your logic:

    a) If the student doesn't join the protest and stays in the classroom, that means he's not taking sides.

    b) If the student doesn't join the protest and goes to study hall, that means he's taking sides.

    Great logic, Plato.
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    18 Mar '18 22:49
    Originally posted by @whodey
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ohio-student-suspended-for-staying-in-class-during-walkouts/ar-BBKikzU?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp

    I'm sure you have all read this by now. An Ohio student was given a choice as to whether he would protest guns with students or leave class and go to study hall if he did not believe in protesting guns.

    His response? He ...[text shortened]... ng a time when tax payers are paying the state to educate their children.

    This is an outrage.
    Conservatives should know all about indoctrination.
    They are ideologically very close to the biggest source of indoctrination.
    We all know what that is.

    Religion !!!!
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    19 Mar '18 02:59
    Originally posted by @vivify
    Your logic:

    a) If the student doesn't join the protest and stays in the classroom, that means he's not taking sides.

    b) If the student doesn't join the protest and goes to study hall, that means he's taking sides.

    Great logic, Plato.
    In the mind of the young man involved, that was nearly exactly what was at stake.
    By being in the one spot he was actually supposed to be in--- even while the rest of the school was losing its stated purpose, if not the entirety of its actual mind--- his seat, in his classroom, specifically NOT outside for any reason, nor in the study hall for any reason, but where he belonged.
    For school.
    To learn.

    His was the only right answer in the entire school!
    That is like the ultimate conscientious objector, except this one said 'Hell! I ain't even going to vote for my right to not go to war!'
    He sneezes at your mockery at democracy practiced by piranhas!
    Thinking that sees through the games being played is beyond reproach, and if he's able to replicate that as he moves forward, he has an amazing future.

    Was there some other logic not represented you think is otherwise being overlooked?
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    19 Mar '18 05:07
    Originally posted by @freakykbh
    In the mind of the young man involved, that was nearly exactly what was at stake.
    By being in the one spot he was actually supposed to be in--- even while the rest of the school was losing its stated purpose, if not the entirety of its actual mind--- his seat, in his classroom, specifically [b]NOT
    outside for any reason, nor in the study hall for any ...[text shortened]... g future.

    Was there some other logic not represented you think is otherwise being overlooked?[/b]
    Without reading your post, I can safely say you are wrong.

    You always are.
    If anything rational can be said about any subject, you cone away with posts that make Trump sound like an intellectual.

    There’s no reason, what-so-ever to expect this post to be any different.
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    19 Mar '18 07:181 edit
    Originally posted by @freakykbh
    In the mind of the young man involved, that was nearly exactly what was at stake.
    By being in the one spot he was actually supposed to be in--- even while the rest of the school was losing its stated purpose, if not the entirety of its actual mind--- his seat, in his classroom, specifically [b]NOT
    outside for any reason, nor in the study hall for any ...[text shortened]... g future.

    Was there some other logic not represented you think is otherwise being overlooked?[/b]
    What exactly can you learn in a classroom with no teacher present that you can't learn in a study hall monitored by school personnel?

    The district issued a statement including this salient point:

    In all three high schools, students who chose not to participate in the memorial gatherings were offered the opportunity to remain in the building, under the supervision of school personnel. As a district, we are required to supervise students during the school day. We do not leave students unattended in classrooms. This is the same practice our district implements when students opt out of other school programs or activities. We provide an alternative, supervised location.

    http://www.hilliardschools.org/facts-about-gatherings/
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