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  1. Zugzwang
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    18 May '18 02:381 edit
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/17/four-year-old-white-supremacist-racism-discrimination

    "What do you say to a four-year-old white supremacist?"

    One could say: "When you grow older, you may join the RHP forums and find fellowship there."

    "A child’s uncensored racist commentary is a harsh reminder that while
    society has moved forward, the book on discrimination isn’t closed yet."

    "I try to be sympathetic, although not accommodating, to the fact that entire
    generations of Americans were explicitly taught white skin is superior.
    But it’s difficult to be sympathetic when those beliefs are expressed by a four-year-old."

    "Whatever we attempted to accomplish in that hour was merely mitigation
    and exposure on our part. At the end of the night, we were aware that
    the boys would return to a [racist] home that believed they innately
    deserved different things from our [non-white] families.

    For a few days, I was angry. That night reminded me that legislation,
    workplace policies and institutional diversity and inclusion offices may
    force incremental social justice advancement, but they can’t force change
    of hearts and maybe not even change of minds. The belief that one group
    of people is superior to another – the literal meaning of white supremacy – doesn’t
    actually disappear.

    That night reminded me that the most powerful and regenerating sources
    of hate are the ones that people of color cannot touch, let alone fight.
    They’re in the conversations that you’ll never hear, because the people
    who have them are smart enough to not discuss them in public, or at
    least not fully.

    "[to white people] Sacrifice the comfort of your silence to speak up in
    the moments where we [non-white people] are absent. Sacrifice your
    comfort, even when we are present, but still not presented.

    The work that will fundamentally change America’s race relations is the work
    that white people must commit themselves to doing among themselves.
    It’s not work that Nuha and I [non-white people] can do. Remember, I tried.
    It wasn’t the right living room, and I’ll never be the right person [white].

    The four and eight-year-old boys who sat with us at the hibachi table,
    three years ago, are now seven and 11 years old. I wonder what else
    they’ve learned [about racism] in these three years.

    If you’re white, you likely know more than me."
    --Lamees El-sadek
  2. Behind the scenes
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    18 May '18 03:021 edit
    Originally posted by @duchess64
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/17/four-year-old-white-supremacist-racism-discrimination

    "What do you say to a four-year-old white supremacist?"

    One could say: "When you grow older, you may join the RHP forums and find fellowship there."

    "A child’s uncensored racist commentary is a harsh reminder that while
    society has moved forward, ...[text shortened]... sm] in these three years.

    If you’re white, you likely know more than me."
    --Lamees El-sadek
    Yes, Duchess we've heard it all before. Only white people are racist, and everyone else are the innocent victims. Yawn. 😴
  3. Seongnam, S. Korea
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    18 May '18 06:30
    The waitress seated us at the corner of the hibachi table, next to a white man who appeared to be in his mid-30s and his two young sons. As I reached to pull my chair away from the table, the youngest boy, the one sitting adjacent to my seat, looked at me and said: “White skin don’t marry brown skin, but it’s OK, you can sit here anyway.”


    I am not sure that this happened.

    A guy in his mid 30s was someone born in the early 1980s; probably not a good chance that he is some hardened racist who is teaching his four year old to be racist.

    As an ethnic minority where I live, it is more likely that children are shocked into silence and begin whispering if they have some conscious racist bias against me. I've never quite seen anything like that.

    I just am not sure it is true.
  4. Standard memberwolfgang59
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    18 May '18 07:29
    Originally posted by @mchill
    Yes, Duchess we've heard it all before. Only white people are racist, and everyone else are the innocent victims. Yawn. 😴
    Every race has its racists but it matters more when one race predominantly has the power.
    If you still do not understand that ... yawn 😴
  5. Behind the scenes
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    18 May '18 07:301 edit
    Duchess, you've not played a single game of chess here in a long time, nor are you a dues paying member, so I am wondering:

    Why are you here??
  6. Zugzwang
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    18 May '18 09:232 edits
    Originally posted by @philokalia
    The waitress seated us at the corner of the hibachi table, next to a white man who appeared to be in his mid-30s and his two young sons. As I reached to pull my chair away from the table, the youngest boy, the one sitting adjacent to my seat, looked at me and said: “White skin don’t marry brown skin, but it’s OK, you can sit here anyway.”
    ...[text shortened]... st bias against me. I've never quite seen anything like that.

    I just am not sure it is true.
    Why does Philokalia find it so hard to accept that white Americans make racist comments?
    Why does he want so much to presume that the article's author is lying?
    And if the article's author wanted to fabricate an example of racism,
    then why did she not make it more blatant?
  7. Zugzwang
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    18 May '18 09:25
    Originally posted by @mchill
    Duchess, you've not played a single game of chess here in a long time, nor are you a dues paying member, so I am wondering:

    Why are you here??
    Obviously, I exist simply in order to give abusive lying racist trolls
    like Mchill something they need to hate.
  8. Behind the scenes
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    18 May '18 11:25
    Originally posted by @duchess64
    Obviously, I exist simply in order to give abusive lying racist trolls
    like Mchill something they need to hate.
    If that is the reason you exist, I feel genuine pity for you.
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    18 May '18 11:281 edit
    Originally posted by @duchess64
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/17/four-year-old-white-supremacist-racism-discrimination

    "What do you say to a four-year-old white supremacist?"

    One could say: "When you grow older, you may join the RHP forums and find fellowship there."

    "A child’s uncensored racist commentary is a harsh reminder that while
    society has moved forward, ...[text shortened]... sm] in these three years.

    If you’re white, you likely know more than me."
    --Lamees El-sadek
    It sure beats being a kid in Palestine being taught to strap explosives to your body by Islamo terrorists and then to press the little red button to kill all the evil Zionists.
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    18 May '18 11:301 edit
    Originally posted by @mchill
    Yes, Duchess we've heard it all before. Only white people are racist, and everyone else are the innocent victims. Yawn. 😴
    Well what is a white devil suppose to do?

    Duh!
  11. Subscriberdivegeester
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    18 May '18 11:321 edit
    Originally posted by @duchess64
    "What do you say to a four-year-old white supremacist?"
    One day we will all find out that you are a mid-50s homosexual white male with abandonment issues.


    PS read other news media than just the bloody Guardian.
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    18 May '18 11:38
    Originally posted by @divegeester
    One day we will all find out that you are a mid-50s homosexual white male with abandonment issues.


    PS read other news media than just the bloody Guardian.
    Homophobe! 😠
  13. Zugzwang
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    18 May '18 19:211 edit
    Originally posted by @duchess64
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/17/four-year-old-white-supremacist-racism-discrimination

    "What do you say to a four-year-old white supremacist?"

    One could say: "When you grow older, you may join the RHP forums and find fellowship there."

    "A child’s uncensored racist commentary is a harsh reminder that while
    society has moved forward, ...[text shortened]... sm] in these three years.

    If you’re white, you likely know more than me."
    --Lamees El-sadek
    "The work that will fundamentally change America’s race relations is the work
    that white people must commit themselves to doing among themselves."
    --Lamees El-sadek

    Jamie Utt (whom I have quoted before) is a rare white American attempting to do that kind of work.

    Evidently, most white Americans here smugly believe that nothing needs to be changed
    among most white Americans--particularly themselves--in order to reduce American racism.
    So these Americans will keep their international reputation as a particularly racist people.
  14. SubscriberAThousandYoung
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    19 May '18 17:52
    Originally posted by @philokalia
    The waitress seated us at the corner of the hibachi table, next to a white man who appeared to be in his mid-30s and his two young sons. As I reached to pull my chair away from the table, the youngest boy, the one sitting adjacent to my seat, looked at me and said: “White skin don’t marry brown skin, but it’s OK, you can sit here anyway.”
    ...[text shortened]... st bias against me. I've never quite seen anything like that.

    I just am not sure it is true.
    The Nazi Lowriders gang was formed in 1978...I think you are a bit out of touch about such things (good for you!)
  15. Subscribersonhouse
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    19 May '18 17:56
    Originally posted by @duchess64
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/17/four-year-old-white-supremacist-racism-discrimination

    "What do you say to a four-year-old white supremacist?"

    One could say: "When you grow older, you may join the RHP forums and find fellowship there."

    "A child’s uncensored racist commentary is a harsh reminder that while
    society has moved forward, ...[text shortened]... sm] in these three years.

    If you’re white, you likely know more than me."
    --Lamees El-sadek
    Isn't that more an indictment of the parents rather than the child? He would never say such things if he was raised non-racist. He is saying what he was taught. Still a sad day.
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