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  1. 01 Nov '13 10:03
    'Panicking' families brace for billions in cuts to food-stamp benefits

    Families brace as billions in food stamp cuts set in

    Benefit cuts to food stamp recipients kick in Friday, a move by Congress that will siphon $5 billion off a program that helps one in seven Americans put breakfast, lunch and dinner on the table.

    As president of the Food Bank for New York City, Margaret Purvis expects those cuts will draw even more people to organizations that already provide 400,000 meals a day to hungry city folks.

    "Our members are panicking," she said as time wound down before the benefit decreases go into effect. "We're telling everyone to make sure that you are prepared for longer lines."

    Needy Americans who receive food stamps through the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program are expected to suffer an average loss of $36 a month from a $275.13 per household benefit. There are a near-record 47.6 million Americans, representing 23.1 million households, on the program. The cost of the program will hit $63.4 billion in 2013.

    SNAP allocations built into President Barack Obama’s 2009 stimulus bill are coming to an end, leading to the cuts. Over the past few years, a bipartisan group of Democrats and Republicans have voted in favor of the cuts in exchange for increased education funding and school nutrition programs.

    At a protest Tuesday on Capitol Hill, a group of Democratic lawmakers who opposed the cuts to food stamps demanded that the funding be reinstated.

    "It was a piece of legislation that said let's change nutrition standards, let's get junk foods out of our schools, and let's make sure that our kids can have those fruits and vegetables," Connecticut Rep. Rosa DeLauro told the Huffington Post regarding the nutrition bill.

    "There was no money for it (the nutrition bill). The price of it was $2.2 billion. That came from the food stamp program and all of us here complained," the congresswoman said. "And we were opposed to that but we knew that it was a good first step in getting the Hunger-Free Kids Act."

    There appears to be little organized effort to prevent the cuts from going into effect, however, despite the political protest and the worries of charity leaders like Purvis.

    Direct consequences
    For some SNAP families living in the neighborhoods of New York City, the cuts may have direct consequences. But the plight of the hungry extends well beyond the city’s five boroughs.

    Programs such as SNAP create economic waves across their communities. In the case of food stamps, those consist primarily of the grocers who benefit when food stamp users shop in their stores.

    "This isn't just a New York issue," Purvis said. "In the world of hunger relief, food stamps are supposed to be the first line of defense."

    Amira Watson, a working single mother of four from Brooklyn, recently had to sign up for food stamps after her marriage ended and she lost one of the two jobs she was working after having to take maternity leave.

    Though she applied a few months ago, her approval won't take effect until Nov. 1 — the same day the cuts are slated to kick in.

    A medical assistant working nights at an assisted living facility for the disabled, Watson worries that the SNAP benefits won't be enough to feed her four kids, who range in age from three months to 15.

    "The job is good with medical benefits but not with the paycheck," she said. "I'm always in the hole with bills. If I pay the rent I'm sacrificing the light, if I pay the light bill I'm sacrificing the gas bill. It's always something."

    Watson said she finds herself relying on food pantries and other stopgaps against hunger while struggling to provide for her family.

    "Thank God for the food pantry and the Campaign Against Hunger," she said. "While I'm waiting for all this processing — glitches here and glitches there — thank God I could go there and shop for some food. I got some baby milk for my newborn, got rice, got a nice amount of stuff that will sustain us until something comes up."

    People on food stamps have become punching bags for politicians and pundits who tell tales of stamp recipients who use their allocation on beer and junk food and pile their shopping carts high.

    And yet, while the stock market soars to new heights and income disparity widens to Great Depression-era levels, SNAP participation has doubled over the past 10 years and increased nearly 25 percent over the past four.

    "Something has changed about America since the financial crisis, and the still-widespread popularity of the SNAP program is emblematic of that shift," Nick Colas, chief market strategist at ConvergEx, a New York-based brokerage and investment research firm, said in a report. "The American economic record, based on the food stamp data, is still pretty lousy."

    Colas said the economic hit from the food stamp cuts will be roughly $10 billion, with the numbers probably not telling the full story.

    "It may not matter to the economic data on which Wall Street hangs its fedora, but it is certainly enough to spark a political response," he said. "How this plays out, I honestly have no idea. We are in uncharted waters here, as the historical record clearly shows."

    http://www.nbcnews.com/business/families-brace-billions-food-stamp-cuts-set-8C11505320
  2. Standard member sh76
    Civis Americanus Sum
    01 Nov '13 13:02
    Originally posted by moon1969
    SNAP allocations built into President Barack Obama’s 2009 stimulus bill are coming to an end, leading to the cuts. Over the past few years, a bipartisan group of Democrats and Republicans have voted in favor of the cuts in exchange for increased education funding and school nutrition programs.
    Yup; this is exactly how the ever expansion of government works. You pass a stimulus measure as a temporary emergency measure. Then, when it's set to expire, you cry about all the poor people who need it so it's made permanent.
  3. Subscriber Sleepyguy
    Reepy Rastardly Guy
    01 Nov '13 13:21
    Have you donated any food to your local food bank or church Moon? It's time for all of us to buck up and help our neighbors in need.
  4. 01 Nov '13 13:54 / 2 edits
    Originally posted by Sleepyguy
    Have you donated any food to your local food bank or church Moon? It's time for all of us to buck up and help our neighbors in need.
    or they could get a job in MacDonald's, i hear they help their staff to millions of taxpayers money every year, perhaps if they paid their employees a fair wage it might not happen and their employees would be self sufficient. What a thought!
  5. 01 Nov '13 13:55
    Michelle Obama says our children have a obesity problem. Sounds like sombody is eating somewheres.
    Which is it moon ? Are the kids starving or over eating ?
  6. 01 Nov '13 13:58
    Originally posted by utherpendragon
    Michelle Obama says our children have a obesity problem. Sounds like sombody is eating somewheres.
    Which is it moon ? Are the kids starving or over eating ?
    a classic mistake, you attributive obesity to over eating, it might simply be that they are not eating nutritious food or exercising.
  7. 01 Nov '13 14:02
    Originally posted by utherpendragon
    Michelle Obama says our children have a obesity problem. Sounds like sombody is eating somewheres.
    Which is it moon ? Are the kids starving or over eating ?
    America has the fattest starving people in the world.
  8. Subscriber Sleepyguy
    Reepy Rastardly Guy
    01 Nov '13 14:05
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    or they could get a job in MacDonald's, i hear they help their staff to millions of taxpayers money every year, perhaps if they paid their employees a fair wage it might not happen and their employees would be self sufficient. What a thought!
    Better yet. We could just do like Venezuela and create an Agency for Extreme Social Happiness. Problem solved. Yay government!
    CARACAS, Venezuela (AP) -- Americans may insist on the right to pursue happiness, but Venezuela now has a formal government agency in charge of enforcing it.

    President Nicolas Maduro says the new Vice Ministry of Supreme Social Happiness will coordinate all the "mission" programs created by the late President Hugo Chavez to alleviate poverty.

    Wags had a field day Friday, waxing sarcastic on Twitter about how happy they felt less than 24 hours after the announcement.

    Oil-rich Venezuela is chronically short of basic goods and medical supplies. Annual inflation is running officially at near 50 percent and the U.S. dollar now fetches more than seven times the official rate on the black market.

    In downtown Caracas, fruit vendor Victor Rey said he's now waiting for Maduro to create a vice ministry of beer.

    "That would make me, and all the drunks, happy," he said.

    http://tinyurl.com/lepyu8y
  9. 01 Nov '13 14:05
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    a classic mistake, you attributive obesity to over eating, it might simply be that they are not eating nutritious food or exercising.
    Oh ! Thanks for the clarification robbie.
    So, they are not starving or going without. Just a poor understanding of proper nutrition (balanced meals) and are lazy.
  10. 01 Nov '13 14:06
    Originally posted by KilgoreTrout15
    America has the fattest starving people in the world.
    no wonder, you serve popcorn and coke in buckets!
  11. 01 Nov '13 14:10 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by utherpendragon
    Oh ! Thanks for the clarification robbie.
    So, they are not starving or going without. Just a poor understanding of proper nutrition (balanced meals) and are lazy.
    there are a number of factors causing obesity Uther, poor diet and lack of exercise spring to mind, its an over simplification to state thats its due to overeating. I find it rather unnerving to hear people speak in terms of those who have and try to make a generalization against those who have not as if they are one and the same, its distasteful Uther.
  12. 01 Nov '13 14:16 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by Sleepyguy
    Better yet. We could just do like Venezuela and create an Agency for Extreme Social Happiness. Problem solved. Yay government!
    CARACAS, Venezuela (AP) -- Americans may insist on the right to pursue happiness, but Venezuela now has a formal government agency in charge of enforcing it.

    President Nicolas Maduro says the new Vice Ministry of Supre ...[text shortened]...

    "That would make me, and all the drunks, happy," he said.

    http://tinyurl.com/lepyu8y
    Oh Yeah, Venezuela, thats the country you tried to establish a CIA instigated military coup to depose the democratically elected Mr. Chavez and FAILED by the sheer will of the people, bad luck old chap! who would have thought that the Venezuelans might want to try and benefit from their own natural resources!
  13. 01 Nov '13 14:20
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    or they could get a job in MacDonald's, i hear they help their staff to millions of taxpayers money every year, perhaps if they paid their employees a fair wage it might not happen and their employees would be self sufficient. What a thought!
    What's a fair wage for someone working in McDonald's? The reason you don't make any money doing that job is because anyone can do it. If you want to make money, you need to have a marketable skill.
  14. Subscriber Sleepyguy
    Reepy Rastardly Guy
    01 Nov '13 14:23
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    Oh Yeah, Venezuela, thats the country you tried to establish a CIA instigated military coup to depose the democratically elected Mr. Chavez and FAILED by the sheer will of the people, bad luck old chap! who would have thought that the Venezuelans might want to try and benefit from their own natural resources!
    And they're doing a great job at it too, or will be soon, when the Ministry of Toilet Paper and Milk gets to work.
  15. 01 Nov '13 14:23
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    there are a number of factors causing obesity Uther, poor diet and lack of exercise spring to mind, its an over simplification to state thats its due to overeating. I find it rather unnerving to hear people speak in terms of those who have and try to make a generalization against those who have not as if they are one and the same, its distasteful Uther.
    there are a number of factors causing obesity Uther-robbie carrobbie


    The main and most common cause is overeating.
    When children eat more than they need, their bodies store the extra calories in fat cells to use for energy later.
    If this pattern continues over time, and their bodies do not need this stored energy, they develop more fat cells and this can and often does lead to obesity.