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  1. 28 Aug '16 20:57
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-37209605

    "Paris Restaurant 'Refuse to Serve Muslim Women'"

    "Terrorists are Muslims, and all Muslims are terrorists."
    --a Frenchman in Paris 2016

    I suspect that bigotry like this often happens, but it's unusual to have it recorded on video.
    France's legalized discrimination against Muslims encourages such bigotry.
  2. 28 Aug '16 22:03
    Originally posted by Duchess64
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-37209605

    "Paris Restaurant 'Refuse to Serve Muslim Women'"

    "Terrorists are Muslims, and all Muslims are terrorists."
    --a Frenchman in Paris 2016

    I suspect that bigotry like this often happens, but it's unusual to have it recorded on video.
    France's legalized discrimination against Muslims encourages such bigotry.
    It appears to me to be a reflection of the high tension caused by recent events.
  3. 28 Aug '16 23:21
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    It appears to me to be a reflection of the high tension caused by recent events.
    and?
  4. Subscriber FreakyKBH
    Acquired Taste...
    28 Aug '16 23:27
    Originally posted by Zahlanzi
    and?
    ... and... there ya go.

    And, what?
    Did it need your "and?" even in the slightest?
  5. 28 Aug '16 23:42
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    It appears to me to be a reflection of the high tension caused by recent events.
    Does Robbie Carrobie believe that this restaurant refused to serve these Muslim women
    because its owner thought it was likely they would commit a terrorist act in the restaurant?
    Even before they received the bill?
  6. Standard member vivify
    rain
    28 Aug '16 23:46
    While it's easy to point fingers at these French citizens, imagine if your friends and family members were recently killed, by one of several terrorist acts in a short time span. Labeling feelings that arrive from grief and fear as "bigotry" is dismissive and devoid of empathy.

    Let's be clear: discrimination against these Muslim women is wrong (especially since most terrorist attacks are committed by men). But we shouldn't be arrogant as to act like we'd be immune to such feelings if the victims were people we loved.
  7. 28 Aug '16 23:50 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by vivify
    While it's easy to point fingers at these French citizens, imagine if your friends and family members were recently killed, by one of several terrorist acts in a short time span. Labeling feelings that arrive from grief and fear as "bigotry" is dismissive and devoid of empathy.

    Let's be clear: discrimination against these Muslim women is wrong (especial ...[text shortened]... be arrogant as to act like we'd be immune to such feelings if the victims were people we loved.
    Many French Muslims also were killed or wounded by these 'terrorists acts' in France.
    Can Vivify perceive any Muslims as victims of 'terrorism'?
  8. Standard member lemon lime
    blah blah blah
    28 Aug '16 23:54
    Originally posted by Duchess64
    Does Robbie Carrobie believe that this restaurant refused to serve these Muslim women
    because its owner thought it was likely they would commit a terrorist act in the restaurant?
    Even before they received the bill?
    Maybe after they received the bill? You never know when they're going to strike, and one cannot rule out the possibility of food fights.
  9. 28 Aug '16 23:57
    An all pork menu. Problem solved.
  10. Subscriber no1marauder
    It's Nice to Be Nice
    29 Aug '16 00:47
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    It appears to me to be a reflection of the high tension caused by recent events.
    How is the average French Muslim wanting to have a meal in a restaurant to blame for such "recent events"?
  11. Subscriber FreakyKBH
    Acquired Taste...
    29 Aug '16 01:35
    Originally posted by Duchess64
    Many French Muslims also were killed or wounded by these 'terrorists acts' in France.
    Can Vivify perceive any Muslims as victims of 'terrorism'?
    Could you be any f***ing dumber than you are right now?

    God, I hope not.
  12. Standard member lemon lime
    blah blah blah
    29 Aug '16 05:48
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    How is the average French Muslim wanting to have a meal in a restaurant to blame for such "recent events"?
    Why do you ask silly questions? No one here is claiming a French Muslim wanting a meal in a restaurant is to blame for anything.
    Unless they order snails, then they are to blame for encouraging the practice of eating snails.
  13. Subscriber no1marauder
    It's Nice to Be Nice
    29 Aug '16 06:15 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by lemon lime
    Why do you ask silly questions? No one here is claiming a French Muslim wanting a meal in a restaurant is to blame for anything.
    Unless they order snails, then they are to blame for encouraging the practice of eating snails.
    Then why should they be discriminated against?
  14. Standard member lemon lime
    blah blah blah
    29 Aug '16 06:51 / 3 edits
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    Then why should they be discriminated against?
    How did anyone know they were Muslims?

    See? Ask a silly question, get a silly answer. Who do you see saying they SHOULD be discriminated against? Both you and Duchess are trying to avoid talking about the reason tensions and suspicions are PRESENTLY running high in France. Can you think of any? How about one? Can you think of ONE reason?
  15. Standard member shavixmir
    Guppy poo
    29 Aug '16 06:54
    Originally posted by Duchess64
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-37209605

    "Paris Restaurant 'Refuse to Serve Muslim Women'"

    "Terrorists are Muslims, and all Muslims are terrorists."
    --a Frenchman in Paris 2016

    I suspect that bigotry like this often happens, but it's unusual to have it recorded on video.
    France's legalized discrimination against Muslims encourages such bigotry.
    The restaurant's called: Chez du porc et jambon.

    The owner was trying to protect his potential customer from unwittingly breaking her religious beliefs... At his own cost!!!

    And you, you dispicable, narrow-minded, coagulation of communist rats have to pick nits with the racist issue!

    No wonder the world's going to pot!
    You can't make an omelet without breaking eggs, you can't have a safe society without actively targetting a religious minority.
    It's the European way...