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  1. 01 Feb '17 23:45 / 4 edits
    http://news.sky.com/story/brexit-bill-vote-article-50-legislation-clears-first-hurdle-in-commons-10752426

    Overwhelming 'Ayes' of nearly 5 to 1.

    So Brexit has gone through a referendum, a Supreme Court ruling and now a parliamentary vote giving power to Downing Street to trigger article 50.

    The only conservative to defy his leadership was Ken Clarke who yesterday attempted to compare the idea of trade outside the EU as a mad-hatters tea party. Hinting at May, who he blatanly loathes, as being Alice. Perhaps he forgets Sky TV catching him off-air slagging her off in true old-school-tie Tory-boy fashion, back on the summer. She's doing a great job you pillock.

    What will the remainers do now I wonder. Perhaps suggest a charity raffle. The EU gravy train is finished, long live a connected Europe of independent nation states.
  2. 02 Feb '17 01:36
    I guess the Euro types around here really don't want to talk about it.
  3. 02 Feb '17 02:18
    St. Peter doesn't care.
  4. Standard member shavixmir
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    02 Feb '17 05:10 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by divegeester
    http://news.sky.com/story/brexit-bill-vote-article-50-legislation-clears-first-hurdle-in-commons-10752426

    Overwhelming 'Ayes' of nearly 5 to 1.

    So Brexit has gone through a referendum, a Supreme Court ruling and now a parliamentary vote giving power to Downing Street to trigger article 50.

    The only conservative to defy his leadership was Ken Cl ...[text shortened]... fle. The EU gravy train is finished, long live a connected Europe of independent nation states.
    It seems you're mixing two points:
    Yes, Westminster has basically voted to split up the UK; has agreed to debate several amendments and screw the English.

    And Europe has nothing to do with it. We're doing quite well, thank you very much.
  5. 02 Feb '17 07:53
    Politicians voting against their country's interests out of political expedience. Nothing new under the Sun, sadly.
  6. 02 Feb '17 09:11
    Originally posted by divegeester
    What will the remainers do now I wonder. Perhaps suggest a charity raffle. The EU gravy train is finished, long live a connected Europe of independent nation states.
    As mentioned by others, it is only the UK leaving. And as with Trump, you probably won't get any of the things that you wanted out of Brexit but will get all the bad stuff.
    Much as I think the EU is a kind of nationalism in itself, I think individual state nationalism is worse.
  7. 02 Feb '17 18:55 / 3 edits
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    As mentioned by others, it is only the UK leaving. And as with Trump, you probably won't get any of the things that you wanted out of Brexit but will get all the bad stuff.
    Well today the Bank of England significantly raised the UK's economic growth expectations for 2017 so it kind of looks like you don't know what your talking about.
  8. 02 Feb '17 18:57
    Originally posted by shavixmir
    It seems you're mixing two points:
    Yes, Westminster has basically voted to split up the UK; has agreed to debate several amendments and screw the English.

    And Europe has nothing to do with it. We're doing quite well, thank you very much.
    Haha. Just watch as all the bleating, hand-wringing, liberals eat their words. I predict UK will become the strongest economy in Europe within 3 years, that at least two other major EU members will vote to leave in the same period.
  9. 02 Feb '17 19:13
    Originally posted by divegeester
    Haha. Just watch as all the bleating, hand-wringing, liberals eat their words. I predict UK will become the strongest economy in Europe within 3 years, that at least two other major EU members will vote to leave in the same period.
    That's an interesting prediction, which would require growth in the U.K. to average over 30% over those three years.

    A minority of the U.K. populace is in favour of leaving the EU, and this minority is smaller in every other EU member.
  10. 02 Feb '17 19:17
    Originally posted by divegeester
    Haha. Just watch as all the bleating, hand-wringing, liberals eat their words. I predict UK will become the strongest economy in Europe within 3 years, that at least two other major EU members will vote to leave in the same period.
    I visit England at least once a year and find Brexit very good.The last time - a few weeks ago - each 100 pounds that I spent cost approx 15 euros less than before the Brexit vote.
  11. 02 Feb '17 19:59
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    That's an interesting prediction, which would require growth in the U.K. to average over 30% over those three years.

    A minority of the U.K. populace is in favour of leaving the EU, and this minority is smaller in every other EU member.
    A minority ?
    If you sent your child to school knowing no one in its class can speak English ,therefore setting your child's education back years how would you feel about that ?.
    What about if you cant see your doctor because the surgery is so overwhelmed by a population explosion caused by an unelected European government .
    A guilt ridden Germany will be a fine leader for you and the lefties heading for the cliff ,good luck you are going to need it .
  12. 02 Feb '17 20:10
    Originally posted by phil3000
    A minority ?
    If you sent your child to school knowing no one in its class can speak English ,therefore setting your child's education back years how would you feel about that ?.
    What about if you cant see your doctor because the surgery is so overwhelmed by a population explosion caused by an unelected European government .
    A guilt ridden Germany will be ...[text shortened]... fine leader for you and the lefties heading for the cliff ,good luck you are going to need it .
    I think your excuse for your abysmal mastery of the English language leaves much to be desired. If you went to a school where no proper English was taught, there still remain plenty of opportunities to better yourself. Have you considered following an online course?
  13. 02 Feb '17 20:11 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    That's an interesting prediction, which would require growth in the U.K. to average over 30% over those three years.

    A minority of the U.K. populace is in favour of leaving the EU, and this minority is smaller in every other EU member.
    That 30% CAGr would equate to nearly doubling the UK economic output over that period. Perhaps you don't know what "strongest" means and you are confusing it with "biggest".

    Similarly with your use of "minority" - perhaps you are confusing those who actually bothered to vote in the single most important referendum in U.K. living memory, with those who didn't, but instead specialise in moaning about the outcome.
  14. 02 Feb '17 20:12
    Originally posted by biffo konker
    I visit England at least once a year and find Brexit very good.The last time - a few weeks ago - each 100 pounds that I spent cost approx 15 euros less than before the Brexit vote.
    I recommend you come more than once a year in 2017 if you want t continue to enjoy a discount.
  15. 02 Feb '17 20:13 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by biffo konker
    I visit England at least once a year and find Brexit very good.The last time - a few weeks ago - each 100 pounds that I spent cost approx 15 euros less than before the Brexit vote.
    By the way, perhaps you are not aware but a weaker pound means better investment here, which kind of negates the "all the businesses are going to leave" bollox.