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    Women take fewer steps?

    I remember a programme on TV in the 80’s and there was a point being made about house-wives (the term already had my mother snarling like a feral badger with rabies) not sporting enough.

    And then some or other professor explained that the average home-worker (my mother spat out: “Unpaid &@€&ing slavery!&rdquo😉 walks up and down the stairs 40+ times a day. Often with loads (babies, whisky bottles... this latter may just have been situational... washing baskets, etc.).

    And that the problem wasn’t movement, but was dietry.

    So, I’m rather interested in why women have stopped walking up and down the bloody stairs.
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    This depends entirely on when one lives. In my neighborhood women walk far more than men. Most are housewives that walk several miles a day to stay in shape with their friends while their husbands are at work.
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    @shavixmir said
    Women take fewer steps?

    I remember a programme on TV in the 80’s and there was a point being made about house-wives (the term already had my mother snarling like a feral badger with rabies) not sporting enough.

    And then some or other professor explained that the average home-worker (my mother spat out: “Unpaid &@€&ing slavery!&rdquo😉 walks up and down the stairs 40+ times ...[text shortened]... ietry.

    So, I’m rather interested in why women have stopped walking up and down the bloody stairs.
    Don't be dense. I am sure you understand her point.
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    @mchill said
    This depends entirely on when one lives. In my neighborhood women walk far more than men. Most are housewives that walk several miles a day to stay in shape with their friends while their husbands are at work.
    Whooosh. Another one.
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    I am curious what the solution is supposed to be.

    Or is this a problem without a solution?

    I often wonder this because, as a 34 year old man, I was exposed to many, many talks about consent & respect. So, I do not know what you can really do at this point besides increase the police presence or, dare I say?, revert to a culture where women are chaperoned by men or in groups with one another.
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    @philokalia said
    I am curious what the solution is supposed to be.

    Or is this a problem without a solution?

    I often wonder this because, as a 34 year old man, I was exposed to many, many talks about consent & respect. So, I do not know what you can really do at this point besides increase the police presence or, dare I say?, revert to a culture where women are chaperoned by men or in groups with one another.
    How about promoting a culture that respects women as co-equal members of society? One that doesn't treat them as second-class citizens? Or prey? Or property? Or is that too much to ask?
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    Feel unsafe.
    Feel safer.

    Meanwhile, the actual statistics say that men are more likely to come to harm on the street, but women keep insisting that they feel unsafe.

    Perhaps the solution doesn't always lie in blaming men and demanding that we change your feelings?
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    @shallow-blue said
    Meanwhile, the actual statistics say that men are more likely to come to harm on the street
    Can you post a link?
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    @suzianne said
    How about promoting a culture that respects women as co-equal members of society? One that doesn't treat them as second-class citizens? Or prey? Or property? Or is that too much to ask?
    How about promoting a culture that respects women as co-equal members of society? One that doesn't treat them as second-class citizens? Or prey? Or property? Or is that too much to ask?



    This sounds fine to me, but looking at the situation in the middle east and asia (are you listening Duchess) it's going to take a bit more than "promoting" to bring this about.
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    @suzianne said
    How about promoting a culture that respects women as co-equal members of society? One that doesn't treat them as second-class citizens? Or prey? Or property? Or is that too much to ask?
    Do you live in a culture that treats women a “prey” or “property” or “second class citizens”? Is this why you find yourself getting sexually assaulted in bars and using your martial arts skills to send these men crashing through countless bar tables as you defend yourself?
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