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  1. Standard member Seitse
    Doug Stanhope
    09 Mar '11 14:07
    Were also silenced for exercising free speech.

    A modern society shut by a bunch of medieval thugs.

    Sad.
  2. Standard member Seitse
    Doug Stanhope
    09 Mar '11 14:08
    Yes, I would like to discuss the limits of free speech
    in politically correct Europe. The place where those
    who are worried for their liberties are censored by the
    P.C. establishment of politicians, journalists and
    "think tanks".

    READ THE TELEGRAPH!

    *fist up*
  3. 09 Mar '11 14:18
    Actually, Fortuyn was murdered because this dude thought he would implement policies harmful to animal welfare.
  4. Standard member Bosse de Nage
    Zellulärer Automat
    09 Mar '11 14:19
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    Actually, Fortuyn was murdered because this dude thought he would implement policies harmful to animal welfare.
    It's always the utopians, isn't it?
  5. 09 Mar '11 14:36
    Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
    It's always the utopians, isn't it?
    Particularly the mentally disturbed ones.
  6. Standard member Seitse
    Doug Stanhope
    09 Mar '11 15:53 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    Actually, Fortuyn was murdered because this dude thought he would implement policies harmful to animal welfare.
    A climate of hate towards Fortuyn was created by the
    establishment. Journalists, politicians, and the rest of
    the do-gooders tagged him as a danger for Dutch society,
    mainly because he spoke openly about Muslims.
    Who pulled the trigger is incidental. Someone like the
    one who "did" Theo Van Gogh would have done it sooner
    or later anyway.

    Of course, I presume you don't mind having in your
    country gay bashers or street demonstrations of happiness
    like the ones taking place after 9/11 or the Madrid bombings.
  7. 09 Mar '11 16:41
    Originally posted by Seitse
    Were also silenced for exercising free speech.

    A modern society shut by a bunch of medieval thugs.

    Sad.
    I take it your other thread was censored and taken away?
  8. 09 Mar '11 17:54
    Originally posted by Seitse
    A climate of hate towards Fortuyn was created by the
    establishment. Journalists, politicians, and the rest of
    the do-gooders tagged him as a danger for Dutch society,
    mainly because he spoke openly about Muslims.
    Who pulled the trigger is incidental. Someone like the
    one who "did" Theo Van Gogh would have done it sooner
    or later anyway.

    Of course, I ...[text shortened]... t demonstrations of happiness
    like the ones taking place after 9/11 or the Madrid bombings.
    Well, Fortuyn was a danger to Dutch society, so I don't see the problem in that.

    The funny thing is that even though gay rights were always a "lefty" sort of thing, right-wing populists after Fortuyn embraced gay rights because Fortuyn was gay. And suddenly gay rights were part of Dutch tradition and culture being threatened by gay-bashing Muslims even though the same people were bashing gays in the 80s and 90s.
  9. Subscriber kmax87
    You've got Kevin
    09 Mar '11 19:11
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    Well, Fortuyn was a danger to Dutch society, so I don't see the problem in that.

    The funny thing is that even though gay rights were always a "lefty" sort of thing, right-wing populists after Fortuyn embraced gay rights because Fortuyn was gay. And suddenly gay rights were part of Dutch tradition and culture being threatened by gay-bashing Muslims even though the same people were bashing gays in the 80s and 90s.
    ....the old enemy of your enemy is my friend...?