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  1. Standard member uzless
    The So Fist
    22 Jun '09 02:09
    Drawing from his online essay, "Playing with Fire", Lewis Lapham laments the state of the American education system wherein schools are producing a generation of young people incapable of asking questions or assuming the basic obligations of citizenship.

    http://www.tvo.org/TVO/WebObjects/TVO.woa?video?BI_LectureQA_20090124_834114_LewisLapham
  2. Standard member uzless
    The So Fist
    22 Jun '09 02:14
    30 minutes of telling it like it is. Rare. Unapologetic to those who cannot comprehend. Put the kids to bed..tell the spouse to go away. Welcome.

    Enjoy the clarity
  3. 22 Jun '09 03:49 / 2 edits
    Originally posted by uzless
    Drawing from his online essay, "Playing with Fire", Lewis Lapham laments the state of the American education system wherein schools are producing a generation of young people incapable of asking questions or assuming the basic obligations of citizenship.

    http://www.tvo.org/TVO/WebObjects/TVO.woa?video?BI_LectureQA_20090124_834114_LewisLapham
    Well if you ask me, they become the ideal citizens for the state. What better outcome than to have citizens who stop asking questions about life and especially their government and assume their drone like existence? Kudos to the public educational system!! I think they have exceeded their goals.
  4. 22 Jun '09 03:57
    Originally posted by whodey
    Well if you ask me, they become the ideal citizens for the state. What better outcome than to have citizens who stop asking questions about life and especially their government and assume their drone like existence? Kudos to the public educational system!! I think they have exceeded their goals.
    its all part of the master plan(a nation of sheep)
  5. 22 Jun '09 04:04
    Originally posted by utherpendragon
    its all part of the master plan(a nation of sheep)
    Obamanation. Bhaaa, bhaaa.
  6. 22 Jun '09 04:21
    Originally posted by whodey
    Obamanation. Bhaaa, bhaaa.
    on a serious note ,I saw a test from the late 1800's to pass the 8th grade and most high school grads could not pass it today.
  7. 22 Jun '09 07:46
    Originally posted by utherpendragon
    on a serious note ,I saw a test from the late 1800's to pass the 8th grade and most high school grads could not pass it today.
    Here is part of it...1. Name and define the Fundamental Rules of Arithmetic.

    2. A wagon box is 2 ft. deep, 10 feet long, and 3 ft. wide. How many bushels of wheat will it hold?

    3. If a load of wheat weighs 3942 lbs., what is it worth at 50 cts. per bu, deducting 1050 lbs. for tare?

    4. District No. 33 has a valuation of $35,000. What is the necessary levy to carry on a school seven months at $50 per month, and have $104 for incidentals?

    5. Find cost of 6720 lbs. coal at $6.00 per ton.

    6. Find the interest of $512.60 for 8 months and 18 days at 7 percent.

    7. What is the cost of 40 boards 12 inches wide and 16 ft. long at $.20 per inch?

    8. Find bank discount on $300 for 90 days (no grace) at 10 percent.

    9. What is the cost of a square farm at $15 per acre, the distance around which is 640 rods?

    10. Write a Bank Check, a Promissory Note, and a Receipt.
  8. 22 Jun '09 07:47
    Some more...1. Give the epochs into which U.S. History is divided.

    2. Give an account of the discovery of America by Columbus.

    3. Relate the causes and results of the Revolutionary War.

    4. Show the territorial growth of the United States.

    5. Tell what you can of the history of Kansas.

    6. Describe three of the most prominent battles of the Rebellion.

    7. Who were the following: Morse, Whitney, Fulton, Bell, Lincoln, Penn, and Howe?

    8. Name events connected with the following dates: 1607, 1620, 1800, 1849, and 1865?
  9. 22 Jun '09 07:48
    And more....1. What is climate? Upon what does climate depend?

    2. How do you account for the extremes of climate in Kansas?

    3. Of what use are rivers? Of what use is the ocean?

    4. Describe the mountains of N.A.

    5. Name and describe the following: Monrovia, Odessa, Denver, Manitoba, Hecla, Yukon, St. Helena, Juan Fermandez, Aspinwall and Orinoco.

    6. Name and locate the principal trade centers of the U.S.

    7. Name all the republics of Europe and give capital of each.

    8. Why is the Atlantic Coast colder than the Pacific in the same latitude?

    9. Describe the process by which the water of the ocean returns to the sources of rivers.

    10. Describe the movements of the earth. Give inclination of the earth.
  10. 22 Jun '09 07:49
    A little more....1. What is meant by the following: Alphabet, phonetic orthography, etymology, syllabication?

    2. What are elementary sounds? How classified?

    3. What are the following, and give examples of each: Trigraph, subvocals, diphthong, cognate letters, linguals?

    4. Give four substitutes for caret 'u'.

    5. Give two rules for spelling words with final 'e'. Name two exceptions under each rule.

    6. Give two uses of silent letters in spelling. Illustrate each.

    7. Define the following prefixes and use in connection with a word: Bi, dis, mis, pre, semi, post, non, inter, mono, super.

    8. Mark diacritically and divide into syllables the following, and name the sign that indicates the sound: Card, ball, mercy, sir, odd, cell, rise, blood, fare, last.

    9. Use the following correctly in sentences, Cite, site, sight, fane, fain, feign, vane, vain, vein, raze, raise, rays.

    10. Write 10 words frequently mispronounced and indicate pronunciation by use of diacritical marks and by syllabication.
  11. 22 Jun '09 07:52
    and.....8th Grade Final Exam: Salina, Kansas - 1895

    Grammar (Time, one hour)

    1. Give nine rules for the use of Capital Letters.

    2. Name the Parts of Speech and define those that have no modifications.

    3. Define Verse, Stanza and Paragraph.

    4. What are the Principal Parts of a verb? Give Principal Parts of do, lie, lay and run.

    5. Define Case, Illustrate each Case.

    6. What is Punctuation? Give rules for principal marks of Punctuation.

    7-10. Write a composition of about 150 words and show therein that you understand the practical use of the rules of grammar.
  12. 22 Jun '09 07:54
    I doubt many 8th graders could pass this today let alone 12th graders
  13. 22 Jun '09 09:56
    What age group is 8th grade in the US ?
  14. 22 Jun '09 09:59
    Originally posted by Barts
    What age group is 8th grade in the US ?
    around 14
  15. 22 Jun '09 11:30
    Originally posted by whodey
    Well if you ask me, they become the ideal citizens for the state. What better outcome than to have citizens who stop asking questions about life and especially their government and assume their drone like existence? Kudos to the public educational system!! I think they have exceeded their goals.
    Uneducated people are much easier to control. The dumbing down of America is another of the many steps toward the One World Order. If people do not understand basic physics it is easier to explain how buildings collapse too.