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  1. Seongnam, S. Korea
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    05 Sep '18 10:46
    It seems that Polish people are satisfied with the job that they have been doing overall:

    Poland’s ruling conservative Law and Justice (PiS) party is backed by 41 percent of voters who say they would take part in parliamentary elections, according to a survey by pollster Ipsos.

    Meanwhile, support for the opposition Civic Platform (PO) party, which lost the last parliamentary elections in 2015, runs at 20 percent, the survey found.


    https://voiceofeurope.com/2018/08/polands-ruling-conservatives-far-ahead-of-nearest-rival-poll/

    This clearly shows that the rule of nationalist & conservative parties can often be very uncontested; they play into the identities of the peopel who live there and the people there are satisfied. They feel respected and their voice is being heard, and that their society is not being morphed into something it shouldn't be.
  2. Standard membershavixmir
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    05 Sep '18 11:01
    Originally posted by @philokalia
    It seems that Polish people are satisfied with the job that they have been doing overall:

    [quote]Poland’s ruling conservative Law and Justice (PiS) party is backed by 41 percent of voters who say they would take part in parliamentary elections, according to a survey by pollster Ipsos.

    Meanwhile, support for the opposition Civic Platform (PO) party, ...[text shortened]... oice is being heard, and that their society is not being morphed into something it shouldn't be.
    Yeah, we’ve never seen this happen before in Europe...
  3. Seongnam, S. Korea
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    05 Sep '18 12:09
    ... Do we get to talk about...

    ......... THE NAZIS?!?!?!?! .....

    But please, remember, whenever far left stuff happens, we're not supposed to talk about the Bolsheviks.
  4. Zugzwang
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    05 Sep '18 20:28
    Originally posted by @philokalia
    It seems that Polish people are satisfied with the job that they have been doing overall:

    [quote]Poland’s ruling conservative Law and Justice (PiS) party is backed by 41 percent of voters who say they would take part in parliamentary elections, according to a survey by pollster Ipsos.

    Meanwhile, support for the opposition Civic Platform (PO) party, ...[text shortened]... oice is being heard, and that their society is not being morphed into something it shouldn't be.
    Why should the hypocritical racist Philokalia complain if the majority of people in South Africa
    approve of the government's efforts to transfer land from a privileged white minority?
  5. Seongnam, S. Korea
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    05 Sep '18 22:41
    If you phrase it that way, why wouldn't you support the Germans when they wanted to transfer economic and academic power from a privileged Jewish minority?

    We can both play stupid games, Duchess.
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    06 Sep '18 00:02
    Originally posted by @philokalia
    It seems that Polish people are satisfied with the job that they have been doing overall:

    [quote]Poland’s ruling conservative Law and Justice (PiS) party is backed by 41 percent of voters who say they would take part in parliamentary elections, according to a survey by pollster Ipsos.

    Meanwhile, support for the opposition Civic Platform (PO) party, ...[text shortened]... oice is being heard, and that their society is not being morphed into something it shouldn't be.
    "their society is not being morphed into something it shouldn't be."

    Please tell us.
    What should it be ??
  7. Seongnam, S. Korea
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    06 Sep '18 00:26
    Originally posted by @mghrn55
    "their society is not being morphed into something it shouldn't be."

    Please tell us.
    What should it be ??
    Poland should be Polish and not some globalized, open air market that precisely resembles any corner of Britain or America.

    Identities should be maintained and the autonomy of local peoples respected.

    Diversity isn't every country looking like New York City. Diversity is every country maintaining its own identity.
  8. Subscribergumbie
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    06 Sep '18 00:35
    Originally posted by @mghrn55
    "their society is not being morphed into something it shouldn't be."

    Please tell us.
    What should it be ??
    How about Polish.
  9. Seongnam, S. Korea
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    06 Sep '18 00:45
    Originally posted by @gumbie
    How about Polish.
    Oh, Gumbie, dontcha know REAL Poland doesn't exist?!

    Poland is a nation of immigrants, just like Germany or France or Britain, and it should closely resemble all of these nations in the promotion of a borderless world with free health care, universal basic income, and everything for everyone delivered on a solver platter.
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    06 Sep '18 04:58
    Originally posted by @philokalia
    Poland should be Polish and not some globalized, open air market that precisely resembles any corner of Britain or America.

    Identities should be maintained and the autonomy of local peoples respected.

    Diversity isn't every country looking like New York City. Diversity is every country maintaining its own identity.
    The irony of it all.
    England being flooded with Polish immigrants is one of the main factors leading to Brexit.
    The irony.
  11. Standard memberwolfgang59
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    06 Sep '18 05:07
    Originally posted by @philokalia
    Poland should be Polish and not some globalized, open air market that precisely resembles any corner of Britain or America.

    Should?

    Are you telling the Polish people that?
    By what right?
  12. Seongnam, S. Korea
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    06 Sep '18 05:09
    I thought that the main reason would actually have been that Brexit happened because old, racist people din't want to be part of this transnational borderless zone where Italy, Spain, and whomever can give legal statuses to whomever and they can just show up in Britain, and it was part of this general "anti-globalist" perspective.

    Of course, protecting domestic British labor is an issue, and that involves not having it undercut at every corner by Polishmen with the right to work...

    But just listen to the way that Dive or someone talks about Brexit and it's all about duh racists.
  13. Standard memberwolfgang59
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    06 Sep '18 12:03
    Originally posted by @philokalia
    I thought ....
    Did you miss my question or too embarrassed to answer it?
  14. Zugzwang
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    06 Sep '18 20:201 edit
    Originally posted by @philokalia
    Poland should be Polish and not some globalized, open air market that precisely resembles any corner of Britain or America.

    Identities should be maintained and the autonomy of local peoples respected.

    Diversity isn't every country looking like New York City. Diversity is every country maintaining its own identity.
    "Poland should be Polish ..."
    --Philokalia

    What an inane (historically ignorant) slogan by Polish nationalists!

    In the course of history, 'Poland' has existed in varying shapes and sizes at various times.
    In fact, 'Poland' did not exist at all as a state for a long time.

    After 1918, Polish nationalists aggressively expanded 'Poland' (mostly at the expense of
    war-weakened Russia or German) as far as they could go, resulting in a Poland with a
    huge population of resentful diverse minorities. The Polish state embarked upon a ruthless
    program of 'Polonization' towards its minorities (Jews, Germans, Ukrainians, Lithuanians, etc.),
    in which only Catholic Poles were perceived as 'real' Poles. Indeed, Polish anti-Semitism
    was so ugly that some Polish Jews even fled as refugees to Germany in the early 1930s.
    When Germany invaded Poland in 1939, Poland's large Ukrainian minority tended to
    welcome the Germans as their 'liberators' from Polish oppression.
  15. Seongnam, S. Korea
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    06 Sep '18 21:37
    Originally posted by @wolfgang59
    Did you miss my question or too embarrassed to answer it?
    ... I just posted that the Polish people, in polls , widely prefer their super-conservative party!

    I haven't told them anything -- did you miss the OP?
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