Originally posted by sh76
Has anyone ever seen Finn and Duch in the same room together?
In all seriousness, if this were posted by almost anyone else on this board, I'd suspect it were a (fairly good) caricature of D64.
Your post was a stunning exercise in distraction and perverse re-framing of the topic. Take this quote from your post: "The vast majority of studies, including an influential study published in the the Journal of Criminology and Public Policy, find that there is no significant difference in recidivism rates for public and private prisons. Without statistics clearly backing up the claim that private prisons result in high rates of recidivism, the argument that private prisons cut corners in rehabilitation is hard to defend."
This is a very impressive and scientific sounding comment, but it is actually utterly dishonest because it has shifted the focus of attention away from the real issues. Using sophistry in this way to misdirect readers and confuse issues is a technique of manipulation and disinformation which goes far beyond beng an honest mistake, and is indeed utterly cynical.
Just to be clear: if recidivism rates are comparable betwen public and private prisons, that only demonstrates that both share defective common values and methods in respect of that measure. There is no reason given to believe that the US prison system is even designed to achieve changes in behaviour, so that recidivism may not actually be relevant to their operation. For example, the three strikes and you're out philosophy is exclusively punitive and has no concept of behaviour modification whatsoever. Life imprisonment is not designed to produce moral rejuvenation. For another example, laws that block ex convicts from voting do not anticipate rehabilitation as good citizens. When American sentencing shows the most remote interest in behaviour modification, then recidivism rates will acquire a relevance that they presently lack. American prisons are simply human warehouses and American voters like SH76 / you lack the moral courage to name this for what it is.
So the system is not designed to prevent recidivism and measuring recidivism rates will not produce real information. Now address the conflict of interest arising from the scale and profitability of prison industries, the scale on which slave labour is intrinsic to the system, the abuse of human rights that entails, and the extent to which Black Americans are disproportionately targetted. These are huge industries and if you are unable to Google it for yourself I suppose I could get you some statistics to make the point clear enough. But even the prices paid for holding prisoners in their unhealthy and overcrowded cells are sufficient to secure huge profits for private companies. The American prison system is a cess pit of corruption and oppression.
This is a powerful account to start with:
Ninety-seven percent of 125,000 federal inmates have been convicted of non-violent crimes. It is believed that more than half of the 623,000 inmates in municipal or county jails are innocent of the crimes they are accused of. Of these, the majority are awaiting trial. Two-thirds of the one million state prisoners have committed non-violent offenses. Sixteen percent of the country’s 2 million prisoners suffer from mental illness.
Since you are engaged in deliberately distorting and misrepresenting the issues, in a way that I have found you do for other topics - notably mass murder and ethnic cleansing of Palestinians - my comments on your moral turpitude are valid.