...and I thought you all were telling me that Zelensky was the guy who was not interested in peace...
Source: cnn
https://edition.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-administration-presidency-03-13-2025#cm87hny3o000v3b6n68xq7eyb
foxnews:
https://www.foxnews.com/world/putin-thanks-trump-principles-ceasefire-push-does-not-say-yes
@Ponderable saidWho, me? I would never presume to know what is on the mind of Trump, Zelensky, Trump or Putin. This is a negotiating game… We have no idea.
...and I thought you all were telling me that Zelensky was the guy who was not interested in peace...
Source: cnn
https://edition.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-administration-presidency-03-13-2025#cm87hny3o000v3b6n68xq7eyb
foxnews:
https://www.foxnews.com/world/putin-thanks-trump-principles-ceasefire-push-does-not-say-yes
@AverageJoe1 saidHas Trump promised to make peace within 24 hours?
Who, me? I would never presume to know what is on the mind of Trump, Zelensky, Trump or Putin. This is a negotiating game… We have no idea.
Has Trump offered more than the actual occupied land to Putin PLUS the promise that Ukraine migt not join NATO ?
Aren't you the one always telling us about the genius Trump is?
You might want to read up some of your old posts.
@Ponderable saidI did say things to that effect, and also said that these things take time. Also, one who is negotiating hardly shows his cards, does he.
Has Trump promised to make peace within 24 hours?
Has Trump offered more than the actual occupied land to Putin PLUS the promise that Ukraine migt not join NATO ?
Aren't you the one always telling us about the genius Trump is?
You might want to read up some of your old posts.
If I say that I am going to sell my house for $100,000, and after negotiations I accept $90,000, this is as normal as apple pie. It is respectable. During negotiations, I do not tell the neighbor that I will accept $90,000.
When Trump wraps it up, and Trump has to give up 40 acres of land to Putiin to do it, you and Marauder will call that an unsatisfactory agreement, and that Trump did no do what he said he would do.
The 24 hour thingy? The glass is always half full to Trump. He is the man for the job. Did you see Timmy Walz say yesterday that Kamala was the most qualified person to ever run for President in our history? So if he said that, then we will let Trump say the 24 hour thing.
@AverageJoe1
So you don't deny that eiether Trump is unable to keep his promises or he is lying to you as a tactic.
Now tell my how it can be that even the most one-sided "deal" I remember can still not be accepted by the favoured person.
@Ponderable saidA peace deal is not in Putin’s interest at this time; he’s playing for time, to gain more. Not necessarily more territory, but more likely to gain a severe split within NATO itself.
...and I thought you all were telling me that Zelensky was the guy who was not interested in peace...
Source: cnn
https://edition.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-administration-presidency-03-13-2025#cm87hny3o000v3b6n68xq7eyb
foxnews:
https://www.foxnews.com/world/putin-thanks-trump-principles-ceasefire-push-does-not-say-yes
@AverageJoe1 saidNot a big fan of reality, are you?
I did say things to that effect, and also said that these things take time. Also, one who is negotiating hardly shows his cards, does he.
If I say that I am going to sell my house for $100,000, and after negotiations I accept $90,000, this is as normal as apple pie. It is respectable. During negotiations, I do not tell the neighbor that I will accept $90,000.
...[text shortened]... run for President in our history? So if he said that, then we will let Trump say the 24 hour thing.
@Ponderable saidHe also said yesterday that he wants to take over Alcatraz. Zounds. Wonder why he said that. He needs to tell us EVERYTHING.
Has Trump promised to make peace within 24 hours?
Has Trump offered more than the actual occupied land to Putin PLUS the promise that Ukraine migt not join NATO ?
Aren't you the one always telling us about the genius Trump is?
You might want to read up some of your old posts.
@AverageJoe1 saidWhy not? She probably is.
I did say things to that effect, and also said that these things take time. Also, one who is negotiating hardly shows his cards, does he.
If I say that I am going to sell my house for $100,000, and after negotiations I accept $90,000, this is as normal as apple pie. It is respectable. During negotiations, I do not tell the neighbor that I will accept $90,000.
...[text shortened]... run for President in our history? So if he said that, then we will let Trump say the 24 hour thing.
Businessmen aren't qualified, and neither are Fox News hosts.
And neither are people who wrote a book on the joys of being a hillbilly.
@AverageJoe1 saidWould you care to tell me what Alcatraz has to do with the war in teh Ukraine?
He also said yesterday that he wants to take over Alcatraz. Zounds. Wonder why he said that. He needs to tell us EVERYTHING.
So I ask again one question at a time:
* Did Donald Trump as presidential candidate promise to finish the war in 24 hours?
@Ponderable saidAlcatraz. Stupid Trump on that one. Too expensive. A better solution is to send everyone out of this country that is not a citizen of this country. I am quite serious when I say that. It would be hard, but a lot of things are hard.
Would you care to tell me what Alcatraz has to do with the war in teh Ukraine?
So I ask again one question at a time:
* Did Donald Trump as presidential candidate promise to finish the war in 24 hours?
As to Ukraine war, Trump was comfortable saying that, because he knows Putin. Or should I say, he used to know Putin. So you see, Putin has become crazy. So Trump cannot follow through as he is not dealing with the old Putin. I can understand that, of course you fellas cannot. Hate stands in your way of reason.
Meanwhile , the president will slap 500% tariff on any country that buys energy from Russia.
You guys that want to talk about January 6 and such are totally missing what is going on, and how smart your president is.
As to your ‘one question’ another president promised that the affordable care act and the inflation reduction act would be successful, and they were not.
Hard being perfect, but you will find out that Trump will be very close to being perfect when all this gets ironed out. I gotta run and see what Nvidia is up to..
As to Ukraine war, Trump was comfortable saying that, because he knows Putin. Or should I say, he used to know Putin. So you see, Putin has become crazy. So Trump cannot follow through as he is not dealing with the old Putin. I can understand that, of course you fellas cannot.
At what date did it happen? For me Putin has not changed much druing the last three years. It must have been somweher between End of octobre and End of January. What exactly where the observables on that (other than making fun of Trump, which happens now)
@Ponderable saidCouldnt tell you. I think Trump only picked up on it late last week....Not the Putin he used to know, it is that simple.
@AverageJoe1As to Ukraine war, Trump was comfortable saying that, because he knows Putin. Or should I say, he used to know Putin. So you see, Putin has become crazy. So Trump cannot follow through as he is not dealing with the old Putin. I can understand that, of course you fellas cannot.
At what date did it happen? For me Putin has not changed much dr ...[text shortened]... uary. What exactly where the observables on that (other than making fun of Trump, which happens now)
We know it happened after Trump was elected, so it could be about 4 months ago or sooner?