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    24 Aug '17 20:45
    Muhammed Ali on racial separatism. Ali seems to be espousing the same views as so called white supremacists.

    YouTube : Muhammed Ali
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    24 Aug '17 20:48
    Originally posted by @robbie-carrobie
    Muhammed Ali on racial separatism. Ali seems to be espousing the same views as so called white supremacists.

    [youtube Muhammed Ali]UchDhiOhEVQ[/youtube]
    Robbie Carrobie fails to comprehend that black separatism and white supremacy are *not* mirror images.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_separatism

    "Black separatism is a separatist political movement that seeks separate economic and
    cultural development for those of African descent in societies, particularly in the United States.
    Black separatism is a subcategory of black nationalism, stemming from the idea of racial
    solidarity, and implies that blacks should organize themselves on the basis of their common
    experience of oppression as a result of their blackness, culture, and African heritage."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_supremacy

    "White supremacy or white supremacism is a racist ideology based upon the belief that
    white people are superior in many ways to people of other races and that therefore white
    people should be dominant over other races. White supremacy has roots in scientific
    racism and it often relies on pseudoscientific arguments."
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    24 Aug '17 21:014 edits
    Originally posted by @duchess64
    Robbie Carrobie fails to comprehend that black separatism and white supremacy are *not* mirror images.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_separatism

    "Black separatism is a separatist political movement that seeks separate economic and
    cultural development for those of African descent in societies, particularly in the United States.
    Black separa ...[text shortened]... e supremacy has roots in scientific
    racism and it often relies on pseudoscientific arguments."
    Ali is espouses racial separatism for both blacks and whites. This is exactly the same position as held by some of those who attended Charlottesville whether Duchess64 likes to acknowledge it or not. Infact if you visit a White 'nationalist' site like Stormfront you get exactly the same message as Ali. Racial separatism. I doubt any references to wikipedia or what constitutes black separatism or how this differs from white supremacy can negate the fact. The question is, is racial separatism racism?
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    24 Aug '17 21:07
    Not the racism unless it is legally required. Farrakhan wants it.
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    24 Aug '17 21:11
    Originally posted by @athousandyoung
    Not the racism unless it is legally required. Farrakhan wants it.
    I don't understand, do you think its racism or something else?
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    24 Aug '17 21:17
    Originally posted by @robbie-carrobie
    I don't understand, do you think its racism or something else?
    It depends on if segregation is voluntary or legally required.
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    24 Aug '17 21:271 edit
    Originally posted by @robbie-carrobie
    Ali is espouses racial separatism for both blacks and whites. This is exactly the same position as held by some of those who attended Charlottesville whether Duchess64 likes to acknowledge it or not. Infact if you visit a White 'nationalist' site like Stormfront you get exactly the same message as Ali. Racial separatism. I doubt any references t ...[text shortened]... differs from white supremacy can negate the fact. The question is, is racial separatism racism?
    Robbie Carrobie also fails to comprehend that black separatism and white supremacy arose out of different historical contexts.
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    24 Aug '17 21:51
    Originally posted by @duchess64
    Robbie Carrobie also fails to comprehend that black separatism and white supremacy arose out of different historical contexts.
    I don't care. I am interested in exploring whether racial separatism is racism.
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    24 Aug '17 21:521 edit
    Originally posted by @athousandyoung
    It depends on if segregation is voluntary or legally required.
    I see, its ok if its voluntary but racism if its coerced? It seems that for anything to be construed as racism you must feel that your ethnicity is superior in some way.
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    24 Aug '17 23:371 edit
    Just another white boy looking for justification for being a racist POS.

    Move on, nothing to see here.
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    24 Aug '17 23:52
    Originally posted by @athousandyoung
    It depends on if segregation is voluntary or legally required.
    What if it is economics?
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    25 Aug '17 01:27
    Originally posted by @robbie-carrobie
    I see, its ok if its voluntary but racism if its coerced? It seems that for anything to be construed as racism you must feel that your ethnicity is superior in some way.
    No, there needs to be systemic racial discrimination for something to be racism.
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    25 Aug '17 01:29
    Originally posted by @eladar
    What if it is economics?
    In our economy where all necessities need to be purchased, it is discriminatory to refuse to sell to people because of their race. You can spend your money how you want.
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    25 Aug '17 02:00
    Originally posted by @athousandyoung
    In our economy where all necessities need to be purchased, it is discriminatory to refuse to sell to people because of their race. You can spend your money how you want.
    Certain people can't afford to eat in certain restaurants. Certain people can't afford to buy houses in certain areas.

    Economic segregation is what this nation is all about.
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    25 Aug '17 02:24
    Originally posted by @duchess64
    Robbie Carrobie fails to comprehend that black separatism and white supremacy are *not* mirror images.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_separatism

    "Black separatism is a separatist political movement that seeks separate economic and
    cultural development for those of African descent in societies, particularly in the United States.
    Black separa ...[text shortened]... e supremacy has roots in scientific
    racism and it often relies on pseudoscientific arguments."
    Exactly.

    Black nationalism good, White nationalism bad.

    Thanks Duchy! 😵
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