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  1. 07 Feb '17 21:13 / 1 edit
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/feb/07/murdered-backpackers-mother-criticises-trump-over-terror-list

    "Murdered backpacker's mother criticises Trump over 'terror' list:
    Rosie Ayliffe says president is wrongly using daughter’s death in
    Australia to further ‘persecution of innocent people’"

    "The mother of a murdered British backpacker has accused Donald
    Trump of using “fake news” about her daughter’s death to further the
    “persecution of innocent people” by falsely claiming she was the victim
    of a terrorist attack.

    Mia Ayliffe-Chung, 21, and Tom Jackson, 30, were killed in a knife
    attack at a hostel in Queensland, Australia, last August. Smail Ayad,
    29, from France, has been charged with their murder.

    On Monday the White House released a list of 78 attacks that it
    described as “executed or inspired by” Islamic State to support a claim
    by Trump that the media has been under-reporting terrorist atrocities.

    The list, which was designed to bolster the case for Trump’s ban on
    travellers from seven Muslim-majority countries, included the killings of
    Ayliffe-Chung and Jackson.

    In a defiant open letter to Trump, Rosie Ayliffe pointed out that police
    discounted the possibility that the attack was terrorism related despite
    reports that the attacker shouted “Allahu Akbar” during the stabbing.

    “My daughter’s death will not be used to further this insane persecution
    of innocent people,” she wrote."

    " “It’s the police who say it wasn’t a terror attack. That’s good enough
    for me and it should be good enough for Trump,” she said.
    She added: “He [Trump] is trying to justify his actions in not allowing
    Muslims into the country from these seven countries. He’s trying to find
    examples of terror and this just isn’t one of them."

    "Ayliffe, from Cromford in Derbyshire, has repeatedly challenged what
    she says is the myth of a connection between her daughter’s death
    and Islamic fundamentalism. She suggested that Mia’s funeral should
    include a reading from the Qur’an to help discount the myth.

    Ayliffe, who wrote The Rough Guide to Turkey travel book, said: “I’ve
    lived and worked in Muslim countries. And I was perfectly happy for my
    daughter to travel in a Muslim country. She wasn’t killed in a Muslim
    country. She was killed in a Christian country, by a French national.
    It was not a racist, or a terror attack.”

    [Mia Ayliffe-Chung apparently was of Eurasian ancestry and appears more East Asian than white.]

    She added: “Trump hasn’t just got Mia’s death wrong. He’s got
    everything wrong regarding Islam and immigration. What he really
    needs to do is visit some of these countries and learn about their cultures." "

    "She said of Trump’s travel ban: “This vilification of whole nation states
    and their people based on religion is a terrifying reminder of the horror
    that can ensue when we allow ourselves to be led by ignorant people
    into darkness and hatred."

    Will US President Trump put down Rosie Ayliffe (a white Englishwoman)
    like he put down the Pakistani Muslim immigrant parents of Humayan Khan,
    who was killed while fighting for the USA?
  2. Standard member checkbaiter
    By God's Grace
    07 Feb '17 23:19
    Originally posted by Duchess64
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/feb/07/murdered-backpackers-mother-criticises-trump-over-terror-list

    "Murdered backpacker's mother criticises Trump over 'terror' list:
    Rosie Ayliffe says president is wrongly using daughter’s death in
    Australia to further ‘persecution of innocent people’"

    "The mother of a murdered British backpacker has ac ...[text shortened]... Pakistani Muslim immigrant parents of Humayan Khan,
    who was killed while fighting for the USA?
    Don't worry, trump won't be able to accomplish anything anyway. The libtards will stymie him at every thing he does by throwing his every EO to the courts at every turn.
  3. Standard member finnegan
    GENS UNA SUMUS
    07 Feb '17 23:33
    Originally posted by checkbaiter
    Don't worry, trump won't be able to accomplish anything anyway. The libtards will stymie him at every thing he does by throwing his every EO to the courts at every turn.
    So your side will not be restraining his excesses then? Why are these principles considered partisan? Why is the truth considered partisan? Why are facts partisan?

    Is that lack of morals, lack of bottle or lack of intelligence, or is it just waiting for Franklin Graham to tell you what God thinks on the subject?
  4. Standard member checkbaiter
    By God's Grace
    07 Feb '17 23:41
    Originally posted by finnegan
    So your side will not be restraining his excesses then? Why are these principles considered partisan? Why is the truth considered partisan? Why are facts partisan?

    Is that lack of morals, lack of bottle or lack of intelligence, or is it just waiting for Franklin Graham to tell you what God thinks on the subject?
    Trump will have to contend with Dims, Establishment Repubs, the courts, the media, and Lefties like you. His chances of accomplishing anything are slim.
    What excesses? What principles? What facts?
    Is that lack of morals, lack of bottle or lack of intelligence, or is it just waiting for Franklin Graham to tell you what God thinks on the subject?
    Your just a God hating, libtard. I have my own views, and yes, they would line up with the bible.
  5. 07 Feb '17 23:41
    Originally posted by finnegan
    So your side will not be restraining his excesses then? Why are these principles considered partisan? Why is the truth considered partisan? Why are facts partisan?

    Is that lack of morals, lack of bottle or lack of intelligence, or is it just waiting for Franklin Graham to tell you what God thinks on the subject?
    Your truth is how a partisan wants to view it. You are a sick distorted person who would lead the western world to destruction of given the chance.
  6. Subscriber Suzianne
    Misfit Queen
    08 Feb '17 07:57
    Originally posted by checkbaiter
    Don't worry, trump won't be able to accomplish anything anyway. The libtards will stymie him at every thing he does by throwing his every EO to the courts at every turn.
    If only.
  7. Subscriber Suzianne
    Misfit Queen
    08 Feb '17 07:58
    Originally posted by checkbaiter
    Trump will have to contend with Dims, Establishment Repubs, the courts, the media, and Lefties like you. His chances of accomplishing anything are slim.
    What excesses? What principles? What facts?
    [b]Is that lack of morals, lack of bottle or lack of intelligence, or is it just waiting for Franklin Graham to tell you what God thinks on the subject?
    ...[text shortened]... our just a God hating, libtard. I have my own views, and yes, they would line up with the bible.[/b]
    Actually, no, they don't.


    Go back to Fox News.
  8. Subscriber Suzianne
    Misfit Queen
    08 Feb '17 07:59
    Originally posted by Eladar
    Your truth is how a partisan wants to view it. You are a sick distorted person who would lead the western world to destruction of given the chance.
    No, that's you.
  9. Standard member finnegan
    GENS UNA SUMUS
    08 Feb '17 08:55
    Originally posted by Eladar
    Your truth is how a partisan wants to view it. You are a sick distorted person who would lead the western world to destruction of given the chance.
    My truth or your truth are psychological constructs. The truth is a social construct with plenty of decent ways of arriving there. Knowing nothing seems to be no barrier to eloquence with you.
  10. Standard member finnegan
    GENS UNA SUMUS
    08 Feb '17 08:56
    Originally posted by checkbaiter
    Trump will have to contend with Dims, Establishment Repubs, the courts, the media, and Lefties like you. His chances of accomplishing anything are slim.
    What excesses? What principles? What facts?
    [b]Is that lack of morals, lack of bottle or lack of intelligence, or is it just waiting for Franklin Graham to tell you what God thinks on the subject?
    ...[text shortened]... our just a God hating, libtard. I have my own views, and yes, they would line up with the bible.[/b]
    Your refusal to deal with evidence and reason is a display of pig ignorance, not adherence to some higher value.
  11. 08 Feb '17 13:11
    Originally posted by finnegan
    My truth or your truth are psychological constructs. The truth is a social construct with plenty of decent ways of arriving there. Knowing nothing seems to be no barrier to eloquence with you.
    Truth is truth if you wish to accept it or not.
  12. Standard member checkbaiter
    By God's Grace
    08 Feb '17 13:51
    Originally posted by finnegan
    Your refusal to deal with evidence and reason is a display of pig ignorance, not adherence to some higher value.
    Your evidence and reason is on full display in any "R" wing.
    You are a reprobate.