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  1. 14 Jan '10 23:40
    I know this happened last summer but I have to mention the Iran Situation. The regime in power had a sham election and then came out armed against the protests that followed. From video on cellphones and you tube, a picture comes clear. Many governments (not just Iran) are still stepping on or outright murdering dissenters in their countries. China comes to mind also. I hope with the advances in computers and technology in general making the world smaller that this will happen less. I am kind of discouraged though. What do you guys think? Is honest disclosure of what is really happening possible? Or will it always be lie until you are caught and then lie again?
  2. 14 Jan '10 23:45
    Originally posted by brendan94
    I know this happened last summer but I have to mention the Iran Situation. The regime in power had a sham election and then came out armed against the protests that followed. From video on cellphones and you tube, a picture comes clear. Many governments (not just Iran) are still stepping on or outright murdering dissenters in their countries. China comes t ...[text shortened]... is really happening possible? Or will it always be lie until you are caught and then lie again?
    But regimes like China censor what their citizens can access on the web. In fact, didn't google pull out of China recently?

    In short, technology can be used by government as well. In fact, who is to say that your own government does not censor what you see on the web without you knowing? Do you think everyone in China is aware of their being censored?
  3. 15 Jan '10 00:03
    Originally posted by whodey
    But regimes like China censor what their citizens can access on the web. In fact, didn't google pull out of China recently?

    In short, technology can be used by government as well. In fact, who is to say that your own government does not censor what you see on the web without you knowing? Do you think everyone in China is aware of their being censored?
    what does his govt (USA) censor on the web besides child pornography?
  4. 15 Jan '10 00:43
    Originally posted by zeeblebot
    what does his govt (USA) censor on the web besides child pornography?
    Nothing....that I know of.
  5. 15 Jan '10 00:57
    is there anything you can think of that you CAN'T find?
  6. Subscriber Wajoma
    Die Cheeseburger
    15 Jan '10 01:23
    Originally posted by brendan94
    I know this happened last summer but I have to mention the Iran Situation. The regime in power had a sham election and then came out armed against the protests that followed. From video on cellphones and you tube, a picture comes clear. Many governments (not just Iran) are still stepping on or outright murdering dissenters in their countries. China comes t ...[text shortened]... is really happening possible? Or will it always be lie until you are caught and then lie again?
    The cause of freedom will be aided greatly by the internet, people will realise that they are the rightful owners of their own lives, collectivist philosophies take a beating every day, people are beginning to question by what right that guy has got a gun and I am not allowed one (both metaphorically and literally).

    Three cheers and more for Google standing up to the chinese guvamint:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/google/6978537/Google-threatens-to-pull-out-of-China.html
  7. 15 Jan '10 01:34
    Originally posted by zeeblebot
    is there anything you can think of that you CAN'T find?
    How much Joe Biden is really worth. Try it and all you will find is a bunch of people scratching their head as to why he is only worth about $150,000 on paper.
  8. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    It's only business
    15 Jan '10 09:22 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by zeeblebot
    what does his govt (USA) censor on the web besides child pornography?
    Certain areas on Google Earth.
  9. 15 Jan '10 09:28
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    Certain areas on Google Earth.
    Is it possible to buy a copy of "Mein Kampf" in US?
  10. 15 Jan '10 09:30
    The Iranian government won't last much longer. These days it's so much harder for oppressive, unpopular governments to mislead the populace because they have access to many communication tools.
  11. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    It's only business
    15 Jan '10 09:38
    Originally posted by FabianFnas
    Is it possible to buy a copy of "Mein Kampf" in US?
    I don't know. Almost certainly I'd think.
  12. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    It's only business
    15 Jan '10 09:40
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    I don't know. Almost certainly I'd think.
    United States: can be found at almost any community library and can be bought, sold and traded from many websites like Amazon.com and Borders Book Store. The U.S. government seized the copyright during the Second World War as part of the Trading with the Enemy Act and in 1979, Houghton Mifflin, the U.S. publisher of the book, bought the rights from the government. More than 15,000 copies are sold a year.[13]

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mein_Kampf#Current_availability
  13. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    It's only business
    15 Jan '10 09:43
    Apparently there is a Mein Kampf 2, which ended up being published by a Jew!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zweites_Buch
  14. Subscriber FMF
    a.k.a. John W Booth
    15 Jan '10 10:11
    Originally posted by FabianFnas
    Is it possible to buy a copy of "Mein Kampf" in US?
    I downloaded a video called "My Struggle" about a poor farmgirl from Idaho trying to make her way in Hollywood. My spouse deleted it.
  15. 15 Jan '10 10:22
    Originally posted by FabianFnas
    Is it possible to buy a copy of "Mein Kampf" in US?
    "Mein Kampf" e-book at Australia's Project Gutenberg. it's not on the main Gutenberg site. i guess it's not public domain in USA.

    http://gutenberg.net.au/ebooks02/0200601.txt