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  1. 17 Mar '12 21:40 / 1 edit
    Any of you remember Ed Meese's commission on pornography.

    Porn producers responded to Rick Santorum’s proposals to ban “hardcore pornography.” They’re not worried. Yahoo News quoted a number of execs in an article Saturday:

    “I don’t see a danger,” Michael Lucas, New York’s largest producer of gay adult films, told Yahoo News. “There’s no danger that he will be the Republican Party nominee.”

    “Whether it’s Newt offering $2 gasoline or Santorum wanting to ban pornography or whatever else he’s doing, they’re making these promises and these threats, and they’re really empty and meaningless,” (Hustler publisher Larry) Flynt told Yahoo News. “I don’t think he will be much of a contender if he gets the nomination, but at the same time I don’t think he will.”

    “It’s sometimes easy to attack the adult industry, but ultimately it doesn’t work,” said Steven Hirsch, the founder and co-chairman of Vivid Entertainment, an adult film company that boasts millions of viewers every month.

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    Republican presidential candidate, Catholic and wooer of Christian conservatives Rick Santorum wants to ban hardcore pornography in America.

    “Pornography is toxic to marriages and relationships. It contributes to misogyny and violence against women. It is a contributing factor to prostitution and sex trafficking,” he wrote on his website.

    “Every family must now be concerned about the harm from pornography. As a parent, I am concerned about the widespread distribution of illegal obscene pornography and its profound effects on our culture.”

    His argument will sound familiar to a number of Catholics and evangelicals, who believe viewing pornography is a lustful sin that drives men away from their wives and the Lord. Houston Catholic Joe McClane leads a men’s ministry against porn, and there are hundreds of national organizations and pastors with the same mission.

    These sites bring up the same negative effects that Santorum does: It hurts relationships with your spouse and children, it damages our culture and it objectifies women. A study by Christian researcher Barna found that pornography viewing was among the most common moral offenses for evangelicals, though at a lower rate than the overall population.

    Santorum pledges to halt the distribution of porn through laws that prohibit its distribution “on the Internet, on cable/satellite TV, on hotel/motel TV, in retail shops and through the mail or by common carrier.”


    http://blog.chron.com/believeitornot/2012/03/rick-santorum-declares-a-war-on-porn/
  2. 17 Mar '12 21:41 / 1 edit
    Legal experts aren’t sure whether such a ban, even if it relies on expanding and enforcing current obscenity laws, would be possible . . .


    . . . [UCLA law professor Eugene Volokh] also cautioned that there would be significant outcry because “sometimes it’s viewed by husbands and wives who watch it to spice up their sex lives.”

    Jonathan Turley, a law professor at George Washington University, noted that “What constitutes obscenity remains maddeningly vague,” but added that he’s not entirely convinced Santorum would be successful in an attempt to snuf Internet porn.

    But even Christians who believe porn is harmful may not agree with Santorum’s proposal to ban it, an attempt to legislate morality rather than rely on heart changes. Ed Stetzer, head of the Southern Baptist-affiliated LifeWay Research has [so indicated].


    http://blog.chron.com/believeitornot/2012/03/rick-santorum-declares-a-war-on-porn/
  3. 17 Mar '12 21:44
    One thing has always puzzle me about porn. Prostitution is illegal but porn is not. I just don't get it.
  4. 17 Mar '12 22:04
    Originally posted by whodey
    One thing has always puzzle me about porn. Prostitution is illegal but porn is not. I just don't get it.
    Well said, legalise prostitution now!
  5. 17 Mar '12 22:05
    Originally posted by whodey
    One thing has always puzzle me about porn. Prostitution is illegal but porn is not. I just don't get it.
    First Amendment
  6. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    Poor Filipov :,(
    17 Mar '12 22:06
    You can't support the richest of the rich and attack porn. That's who's making it! Modern day Caligulas...
  7. 17 Mar '12 22:43 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by moon1969
    Any of you remember Ed Meese's commission on pornography.

    Porn producers responded to Rick Santorum’s proposals to ban “hardcore pornography.” They’re not worried. Yahoo News quoted a number of execs in an article Saturday:

    “I don’t see a danger,” Michael Lucas, New York’s largest producer of gay adult films, told Yahoo News. “There’s no dange ...[text shortened]... ”


    http://blog.chron.com/believeitornot/2012/03/rick-santorum-declares-a-war-on-porn/
    Thanks for posting this.
    At first I thought it was b.s. until I researched it quickly and went to his web site. And sure enough, there it was !
    I had already wrote him off over the contraception thing. But this takes the cake !
    A very dangerous individual to freedom !
    He will never get the nomination.
    If he does though, he will never get elected.
    And then.. I will leave the country.
  8. Standard member sh76
    Civis Americanus Sum
    18 Mar '12 00:24
    Originally posted by utherpendragon
    Thanks for posting this.
    At first I thought it was b.s. until I researched it quickly and went to his web site. And sure enough, there it was !
    I had already wrote him off over the contraception thing. But this takes the cake !
    A very dangerous individual to freedom !
    He will never get the nomination.
    If he does though, he will never get elected.
    And then.. I will leave the country.
    You will leave the country if Rick Santorum is elected President?
  9. 18 Mar '12 00:30
    Originally posted by moon1969
    First Amendment
    Prostitution is freedom of speech?
  10. 18 Mar '12 00:38 / 2 edits
    Just a few things here, I think that Santorum realizes that his chances are nill, so what does one do in such instances? Essentially, he is a trapped animal with really nothing to lose. At this point you throw caution to the wind and say "risky" things. Just look at it as a risk/reward ratio. The more risk you take, the more potential reward.

    So what is the potential reward? It is catering to the Christian right. Could doing this change the certainty of a Romney candidacy? I don't think so because I don't think that the Christian right is as powerful as they may have been at one time in the GOP, but we shall see. I think "W" nixed much of their influence in the GOP.

    As for myself, the whole porn issue confuses the hell out of me. After all, people are having sex on film for money, which is prostitution. Although it is prostitution, it is legal????? Again, can anyone splain this to me?

    As for my own beliefs about porn, I don't think anyone could ever successfully make it illegal because it would be akin to prohibition. The demand and addiction is too great and would be a losing battle, even if porn is really detrimental to society. I don't think that Santorum is stupid enough to think he could ever ban porn, but he can give lip service to the idea in the hopes of getting votes.
  11. 18 Mar '12 00:41
    Originally posted by sh76
    You will leave the country if Rick Santorum is elected President?
    I guess uther thinks Santorum is worse than Obama. I guess the threat of not buying health insurance and mortgaging the future of our children is not as bad as banning porn.
  12. Subscriber FMF
    a.k.a. John W Booth
    18 Mar '12 00:44
    Originally posted by sh76
    You will leave the country if Rick Santorum is elected President?
    I think what utherpendragon means is that he will leave the country if it gets harder to access porn.
  13. 18 Mar '12 01:26
    Originally posted by FMF
    I think what utherpendragon means is that he will leave the country if it gets harder to access porn.
    Perhaps if Santorum wins the nomination, Obama can run as the "Hard core porn" president.
  14. Subscriber FMF
    a.k.a. John W Booth
    18 Mar '12 01:30
    Originally posted by whodey
    Perhaps if Santorum wins the nomination, Obama can run as the "Hard core porn" president.
    Why?
  15. 18 Mar '12 01:50
    Originally posted by FMF
    Why?
    Cause if you don't vote for me, then you won't be able to.....um.....well.....you know.

    It's a joke FMF.