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  1. 27 Jan '12 01:22
    Latest Poll

    Favorable
    Obama 53%
    Romney 31%
    Newt 29%

    Unfavorable
    Obama 43%
    Romney 49%
    Newt 51%


    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/polls/postabcpoll_012212.html
  2. 27 Jan '12 01:28 / 1 edit
    As for independents, a majority, 51 percent, now have a unfavorable impression of Romney, compared with just 23 percent who have a favorable opinion. That is a sharp reversal from earlier this month, when 41 percent of independents had a favorable opinion of Romney, and only 34 percent had an unfavorable opinion.

    Among independents, 22 percent have a favorable opinion of Gingrich, and 53 percent have an unfavorable opinion.

    http://www.nationaljournal.com/2012-presidential-campaign/poll-romney-s-unfavorability-skyrockets-20120124

    Even with the increase in unfavorable ratings of Romney, it still seems that Newt as the nominee would be a dream come true for President Obama.
  3. 27 Jan '12 13:38
    Here are polls that don't omit the other 2 republican candidates.

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/president_obama_vs_republican_candidates.html
  4. 27 Jan '12 16:03
    Originally posted by moon1969
    Latest Poll

    Favorable
    Obama 53%
    Romney 31%
    Newt 29%

    Unfavorable
    Obama 43%
    Romney 49%
    Newt 51%


    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/polls/postabcpoll_012212.html
    Er....um....Paul? what about Ron? You know, the only guy people think has any integrity.
  5. 27 Jan '12 19:38
    I really think the GOP is probably going to give up on the Presidency. I mean they'll throw money into the super-PACs and all, but it will be a token effort. I think their real strategists will focus on trying to hold on to the House majority and snag the Senate majority.
  6. 27 Jan '12 21:29
    Originally posted by whodey
    Er....um....Paul? what about Ron? You know, the only guy people think has any integrity.
    Ron Paul is too extreme to be included in anything. The common people must think he doesn't exist for their own good. Their consent must be manufactured by smart people who know better. In other words, democracy is dangerous. Most people are too ignorant to decide anything. Stalin and Hitler knew that best.
  7. 27 Jan '12 22:36 / 2 edits
    Originally posted by whodey
    Er....um....Paul? what about Ron? You know, the only guy people think has any integrity.
    This is a race between Romney versus the anti-Romney candidate (currently Newt, and would become Santorum if Newt implodes). In contrast, Ron Paul is a non-viable protest candidate. There is not enough independents and Democrats crossing over to the Republican primaries (where they can) to help Paul secure the Republican nomination.

    I like a lot about Ron Paul, but it is a pipe dream amongst the Paul cult in viewing Paul as having a chance with the Republican rank-and-file. We are talking about Republicans. How long will it take for the Paul supporters to recognize Paul does not have a chance and is merely a protest candidate. After Super Tuesday maybe?

    Moreover, it is also delusional to blame the media when the Republicans boo him, and how a majority of Republicans find several of his positions repulsive, and when Paul comes in a distant 4th place as he did in SC.
  8. 27 Jan '12 22:46 / 5 edits
    Originally posted by Metal Brain
    Ron Paul is too extreme to be included in anything. The common people must think he doesn't exist for their own good. Their consent must be manufactured by smart people who know better. In other words, democracy is dangerous. Most people are too ignorant to decide anything. Stalin and Hitler knew that best.
    Do you agree that the Republican rank-and-file, especially the vocal social conservatives, right-wingers, and evangelicals who make up a big portion, will vote for Newt or Santorum before Paul, and would even vote for Romney before Paul.

    These social conservatives and christian fundamentalists dominating the Republican party are not big on legalizing prostituion, cocaine, and heroin, and they aint't big on the Golden Rule if that means the US taking blame when it comes to US versus Muslims, or that we should have warned Pakistan before sending in the Seals to take out Bin Laden, etc..

    And the Republican establishment type will vote for Romney before Paul. Thus, that leaves more free-thinking types and 18-29 year olds, who are a small minority in the Republican party who vote for Paul. Not enough.
  9. 27 Jan '12 22:50 / 2 edits
    Originally posted by Metal Brain
    Here are polls that don't omit the other 2 republican candidates.

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/president_obama_vs_republican_candidates.html
    I notice that President Obama spanks Ron Paul by 6 points. I the President and the Democrats would love it if Newt or Paul got the nomination.

    As for the Republican race -- big organization, the caucus structure, and cross-over Democrats helped Ron Paul in Iowa. As for the moderate NH, Paul spent the second most amount of money after Romney. Iowa and NH were impressive showings for Paul, with his 20+ %. He is a viable third party candidate, and would do better than Nader and as good as Perot.

    But a few weeks ago it was cruel tease to his cult followers for Paul to characterize the Republican race as shaping up as race between him and Romney. Not so.

    I like Ron Paul, but remember there is the social conservative/evangelicals and the Republican establishment who together will decide the nominee, and neither who will vote for Paul in a million years. The remaining pubs, the few Republican free-thinkers and active 18-29 year olds ain't enough.
  10. 28 Jan '12 02:11 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by moon1969
    This is a race between Romney versus the anti-Romney candidate (currently Newt, and would become Santorum if Newt implodes). In contrast, Ron Paul is a non-viable protest candidate. There is not enough independents and Democrats crossing over to the Republican primaries (where they can) to help Paul secure the Republican nomination.

    I like a lot about ...[text shortened]... several of his positions repulsive, and when Paul comes in a distant 4th place as he did in SC.
    Agreed. Ron Paul cannot win in the GOP, and he knows it. I think he is mistaken in thinking he can begin to sway the party libertarian. He is just as mistaken as conservatives are about swaying the GOP in their favor.

    Really what needs to be done is have him run a third party. That is his best shot and the best chance libertarians have at political power.
  11. Subscriber no1marauder
    It's Nice to Be Nice
    28 Jan '12 02:45
    Originally posted by whodey
    Agreed. Ron Paul cannot win in the GOP, and he knows it. I think he is mistaken in thinking he can begin to sway the party libertarian. He is just as mistaken as conservatives are about swaying the GOP in their favor.

    Really what needs to be done is have him run a third party. That is his best shot and the best chance libertarians have at political power.
    I wholeheartedly agree.
  12. Subscriber Sleepyguy
    Reepy Rastardly Guy
    28 Jan '12 03:37
    Well no1 likes your plan, whodey. It must be a good one!
  13. 28 Jan '12 04:14
    Originally posted by Sleepyguy
    Well no1 likes your plan, whodey. It must be a good one!
    He just wants to win $50 from Uther.
  14. 28 Jan '12 04:27 / 2 edits
    Originally posted by moon1969
    Latest Poll

    Favorable
    Obama 53%
    Romney 31%
    Newt 29%

    Unfavorable
    Obama 43%
    Romney 49%
    Newt 51%


    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/polls/postabcpoll_012212.html
    Interesting. However, this is also interesting.

    Latest poll in terms of ways to die.

    Favorable
    1. Spending every last dime you have and then begin to spend every last dime others around you have before you die on self indulgence 54%
    2. Being chased off a mountain ledge by a group of beautiful naken women. 36%
    3. Strap yourself with explosives and then run into your the office of your boss yelling "Allah!!" 30%

    Unfavorable
    1. Having your nuts ripped off after getting trapped in a turbine. 44%
    2. Being chased off a mountain by a group of naked women who look like Rosie O;ddonnel. 48%
    3. dysentery 8%

    The similarities are uncanny.
  15. 28 Jan '12 07:19
    Here's more polling data.

    NATIONAL (Gallup Tracking): Gingrich 32, Romney 24, Paul 14, Santorum 13

    ARIZONA (American Research Group): Gingrich 32, Romney 32, Paul 12, Santorum 10

    FLORIDA (Dixie Strategies/First Coast News): Gingrich 35, Romney 35, Santorum 9, Paul 7

    FLORIDA (Quinnipiac): Romney 38, Gingrich 29, Paul 14, Santorum 12

    FLORIDA (VSS/Sunshine State News): Romney 42, Gingrich 32, Santorum 12, Paul 9

    MICHIGAN (EPIC-MRA): Romney 31, Gingrich 26, Paul 14, Santorum 10

    On the general election front, the president still has an edge, and perhaps more importantly, a new poll showed Obama reclaiming the lead from Mitt Romney in a blue-leaning state with special ties to the GOP challenger.

    NATIONAL (Rasmussen Tracking): Obama d. Romney (45-42); Obama d. Gingrich (48-41)

    MICHIGAN (EPIC-MRA): Obama d. Romney (48-40); Obama d. Gingrich (51-38)


    November:
    Romney viewed somewhat or very negatively by 22% of independents
    Romney led Obama by 13 points—47% to 34%.

    Today:
    Romney viewed somewhat or very negatively by 42% of independents
    Romney trails Obama by 8 points—36% to 44%