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  1. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    It's only business
    08 Feb '10 22:17
    Gang interventionist fatally shot after confronting tagger, police say
    February 8, 2010 | 11:16 am
    A former Crips gang member, who police said transformed himself by working to steer others away from lives of violence, was fatally shot after he confronted a tagger in Mid-Wilshire, Los Angeles police said Monday.

    Ronald Lamonte Barron, 40, was leaving the Cottage Bar in the 5000 block of West Pico Boulevard about 9 p.m. Sunday with his girlfriend when he noticed a tagger applying graffiti to a nearby wall, police said.

    Barron confronted the tagger, who pulled out a pistol and fired once, hitting Barron in the chest.

    Gang interventionist fatally shot after confronting tagger, police say
    February 8, 2010 | 11:16 am
    A former Crips gang member, who police said transformed himself by working to steer others away from lives of violence, was fatally shot after he confronted a tagger in Mid-Wilshire, Los Angeles police said Monday.

    Ronald Lamonte Barron, 40, was leaving the Cottage Bar in the 5000 block of West Pico Boulevard about 9 p.m. Sunday with his girlfriend when he noticed a tagger applying graffiti to a nearby wall, police said.

    Barron confronted the tagger, who pulled out a pistol and fired once, hitting Barron in the chest.

    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2010/02/gang-interventionist-fatally-shot-after-confronting-tagger.html


    Thank you, Mr. Barron.

    Is the man a hero?
  2. 08 Feb '10 22:20
    He was at the wrong place at the wrong time. How does that make him a hero?
  3. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    It's only business
    08 Feb '10 22:26
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    He was at the wrong place at the wrong time. How does that make him a hero?
    In general, for spending many years as a gang interventionist. Specifically, for challenging a tagger in this gang infested city and paying with his life.

    He's one small reason why the gang situation is so much better here than just across the border.
  4. 08 Feb '10 22:27
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    In general, for spending many years as a gang interventionist. Specifically, for challenging a tagger in this gang infested city and paying with his life.

    He's one small reason why the gang situation is so much better here than just across the border.
    What's the gang situation like in Canada?
  5. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    It's only business
    08 Feb '10 22:35 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    What's the gang situation like in Canada?
    Getting worse. Canucks can thank my hometown for the Hell's Angels and 18th Street for example - yep, that's 18th street, 18 streets south of the center of downtown Los Angeles.

    http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2009/04/01/f-biker-gangs.html
    http://www.streetgangs.com/topics/2002/18thexport.html
  6. Standard member expuddlepirate
    Exaulted high possum
    09 Feb '10 08:18
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    Gang interventionist fatally shot after confronting tagger, police say
    February 8, 2010 | 11:16 am
    A former Crips gang member, who police said transformed himself by working to steer others away from lives of violence, was fatally shot after he confronted a tagger in Mid-Wilshire, Los Angeles police said Monday.

    Ronald Lamonte Barron, 40, was ...[text shortened]... fatally-shot-after-confronting-tagger.html


    Thank you, Mr. Barron.

    Is the man a hero?
    I say he was a hero. So few turn their lives around 180 degrees like that and put as much, as if not more, energy and time into stopping gang violence as they put into that violence.
  7. 09 Feb '10 11:37
    Originally posted by expuddlepirate
    I say he was a hero. So few turn their lives around 180 degrees like that and put as much, as if not more, energy and time into stopping gang violence as they put into that violence.
    Well, as we say in Dutch, it's mopping the floor with the tap open. You can solve gang crime easily by providing more opportunities to the poor to get out of poverty.
  8. 09 Feb '10 12:01
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    Well, as we say in Dutch, it's mopping the floor with the tap open. You can solve gang crime easily by providing more opportunities to the poor to get out of poverty.
    yeah real easy to fix you sure know all about it
  9. 09 Feb '10 13:05
    Originally posted by Sam The Sham
    yeah real easy to fix you sure know all about it
    No significant gang crime problems here. Why do you think that is the case?
  10. 09 Feb '10 13:14
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    No significant gang crime problems here. Why do you think that is the case?
    Gee I dunno could Dutch demographics have something to do with it?
  11. 09 Feb '10 13:15
    Originally posted by Sam The Sham
    Gee I dunno could Dutch demographics have something to do with it?
    Maybe, how would that explain it exactly?
  12. 09 Feb '10 14:05
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    Getting worse. Canucks can thank my hometown for the Hell's Angels and 18th Street for example - yep, that's 18th street, 18 streets south of the center of downtown Los Angeles.

    http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2009/04/01/f-biker-gangs.html
    http://www.streetgangs.com/topics/2002/18thexport.html
    are you implying the Angels are some sort of criminal organization?
  13. Subscriber AThousandYoung
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    10 Feb '10 00:08 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by utherpendragon
    are you implying the Angels are some sort of criminal organization?
    Yes. Here's Wiki's extensively referenced take on it:

    The Hells Angels Motorcycle Club (HAMC) is a worldwide one-percenter motorcycle gang and organized crime syndicate[13][4][14][3]

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hells_Angels
  14. Subscriber AThousandYoung
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    10 Feb '10 00:09
    Police arrest teenage tagger suspected in fatal shooting of veteran L.A. gang outreach worker

    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2010/02/police-arrest-teenage-tagger-suspected-in-fatal-shooting-of-veteran-gang-outreach-worker.html
  15. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    It's only business
    10 Feb '10 00:11
    Here's another of our lovely donations to world culture:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongols_(motorcycle_club)