Originally posted by @sh76
I didn't mean that Germany was irreligious. I meant the Germany belonging to the irreligious Hitler, not the irreligious Germany belonging to Hitler.
Nazi ideology was was based on the Hegelian belief that great armed nations were entitled to do whatever their strength allowed them to do and that conventional morality didn't apply to them. Christian ideas o ...[text shortened]... itler's philosophy, even if he may have made temporary alliances with Christians and the Church.
I interpreted the 'irreligious' in Sh76's unclear (at best) "irreligious Hitler's Germany" as
referring to Germany, with 'Hitler' being added to indicate during which historical period.
Compare "Hitler's Germany" to "Luther's Germany". I don't believe that it's most plausible
to argue that "Luther's Germany" should refer only to the Germans who were Lutherans.
I believe that it's more plausible that it refers to the Germany of Luther's time.
And, given the context of Sh76 disputing Sonhouse, it makes no sense to me that Sh76
would concede that Germany was a generally religious society led by an irreligious Hitler.
So I concluded that Sh76 was claiming that the Germany of Hitler's time was irreligious.
"Hitler, attempting to appeal to the German masses during his political campaign and
leadership, sometimes made declarations in support of religion and against atheism ...
Hitler publicly claimed he believed in Christianity and an active God, and in one speech,
he stated that he held Jesus in high esteem as an "Aryan fighter" who struggled against
Jewry and Jewish materialism. While a small number of writers accept these publicly
stated views as genuine expressions of his spirituality, the vast majority believe that
Hitler was skeptical of religion generally, but recognized that he could only be elected
and preserve his political power if he feigned a commitment to and belief in Christianity,
which the overwhelming majority of Germans believed in."
I believe that Hitler professed to be a Christian only on account of political expediency.
I don't know if Hitler in private was an atheist or still held an unchurched belief in some God.