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  1. 28 Jan '16 20:46 / 5 edits
    It looks like this is how things will shape up.

    When Hillary was asked what the difference between a socialist and a democrat, she could not answer. And who can blame her? They are one in the same so why not just come out and say it like Bernie does?. Now the populace has been sufficiently brainwashed to embrace the once dirty word socialism in the US. It's like they say, any press is good press.

    Trump is a Prog. That's why both the establishment and press want him to win the GOP nomination. I know, I know, the establishment and the press speak ill of him 24/7, however, what I learned last election is if the press and establishment really hate you, they just ignore you like they did Ron Paul. Trump is the center of focus regarding everything in the press, and the poll numbers indicate as much.

    After listening to Trump, I'm not sure he would care much about the government completely taking over health care or anything else for that matter. I've always suspected Trump was a Prog plant because he has been a life long Prog and he favors Prog policies such as taxation.

    As always, either way the system is rigged and we lose.
  2. Subscriber no1marauder
    It's Nice to Be Nice
    28 Jan '16 21:18
    Originally posted by whodey
    It looks like this is how things will shape up.

    When Hillary was asked what the difference between a socialist and a democrat, she could not answer. And who can blame her? They are one in the same so why not just come out and say it like Bernie does?. Now the populace has been sufficiently brainwashed to embrace the once dirty word socialism in the US. ...[text shortened]... avors Prog policies such as taxation.

    As always, either way the system is rigged and we lose.
    Right wingers like yourself have been calling virtually every single Federal program that doesn't involve bombing and/or invading another country "socialism" for so long it's not surprising if a mere word isn't going to be enough to discredit policy prescriptions that the majority agree with.

    For an example of this phenomena see: http://fablesofaesop.com/the-boy-who-cried-wolf.html
  3. 28 Jan '16 21:23 / 3 edits
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    Right wingers like yourself have been calling virtually every single Federal program that doesn't involve bombing and/or invading another country "socialism" for so long it's not surprising if a mere word isn't going to be enough to discredit policy prescriptions that the majority agree with.

    For an example of this phenomena see: http://fablesofaesop.com/the-boy-who-cried-wolf.html
    And dolts like you refuse to acknowledge that the more programs government create and the more institutions they take over the more socialist a society becomes.

    This is how people are treated in the press that Progs like you hate.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtDJ6Ay4QMw

    They just pretend they don't exist.
  4. Subscriber no1marauder
    It's Nice to Be Nice
    28 Jan '16 21:34
    Originally posted by whodey
    And dolts like you refuse to acknowledge that the more programs government create and the more institutions they take over the more socialist a society becomes.

    This is how people are treated in the press that Progs like you hate.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtDJ6Ay4QMw

    They just pretend they don't exist.
    This BS isn't going to work forever, whodey; the People are tired of a government that works only for the wealthy. Social Security was "socialism", Medicare was "socialism", etc. etc. etc. etc. That type of screeching just isn't going to fool the People forever.
  5. 28 Jan '16 21:37
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    This BS isn't going to work forever, whodey; the People are tired of a government that works only for the wealthy. Social Security was "socialism", Medicare was "socialism", etc. etc. etc. etc. That type of screeching just isn't going to fool the People forever.
    Progs just "fixed" health care and now they want to change it again?

    I guess pot is legal now, so that splains it.
  6. Subscriber no1marauder
    It's Nice to Be Nice
    28 Jan '16 21:40
    Originally posted by whodey
    Progs just "fixed" health care and now they want to change it again?

    I guess pot is legal now, so that splains it.
    Your idiot ravings aren't even amusing, they're just pathetic.

    It would be nice to fix health care to the level that virtually every other advanced country has.
  7. 28 Jan '16 21:44
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    Your idiot ravings aren't even amusing, they're just pathetic.

    It would be nice to fix health care to the level that virtually every other advanced country has.
    So you want health care like veterans have with the VA?
  8. 28 Jan '16 21:46
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    This BS isn't going to work forever, whodey; the People are tired of a government that works only for the wealthy. Social Security was "socialism", Medicare was "socialism", etc. etc. etc. etc. That type of screeching just isn't going to fool the People forever.
    Interestingly, social security does not owe anyone a dime. They are not obligated to give us anything.

    Likewise with health care. They can deny us at any time for any reason.

    All this is, is surrendering power on the premise that those dingleberries that are in power, who have run up the greatest debt in human history, will do the right thing by us.
  9. 28 Jan '16 21:57
    Originally posted by whodey
    Interestingly, social security does not owe anyone a dime. They are not obligated to give us anything.

    Likewise with health care. They can deny us at any time for any reason.

    All this is, is surrendering power on the premise that those dingleberries that are in power, who have run up the greatest debt in human history, will do the right thing by us.
    Since Social Security is highly popular, it is extremely unlikely Social Security benefits will be scrapped any time soon.
  10. 28 Jan '16 22:00
    Originally posted by whodey
    It looks like this is how things will shape up.

    When Hillary was asked what the difference between a socialist and a democrat, she could not answer. And who can blame her? They are one in the same so why not just come out and say it like Bernie does?. Now the populace has been sufficiently brainwashed to embrace the once dirty word socialism in the US. ...[text shortened]... avors Prog policies such as taxation.

    As always, either way the system is rigged and we lose.
    "They are one in the same "
    that's a hilarious ignorant statement.

    let me guess, you consider obama a socialist too.
  11. 28 Jan '16 22:01
    Originally posted by Zahlanzi
    "They are one in the same "
    that's a hilarious ignorant statement.

    let me guess, you consider obama a socialist too.
    Well duh, Obama is a Marxist Socialist Muslim anti-American Kenyan. Get with the times.
  12. 28 Jan '16 22:03 / 2 edits
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    Since Social Security is highly popular, it is extremely unlikely Social Security benefits will be scrapped any time soon.
    So long as they cut in enough people on their money scheme all is well with the world.

    It's like the credit crisis. Everyone was making money and happy. People were obtaining homes they could not afford. Mortgage companies were making sale after sale. Those on Wall Street were selling these bad loans into repackaged investments that not even Warren Buffet could understand, and home ownership was at an all time high so that politicians could gloat and take credit for. Everyone, and I do mean everyone, was happy.

    Then the bubble burst.

    Is government a bubble? Can this spending just keep going on indefinitely? Will there be a QE 4, 5, 5, ........1,112?

    And when it bursts society will be in ruins. Better brush up on your Chinese/Russian/Arabic.
  13. 28 Jan '16 22:06
    Originally posted by Zahlanzi
    "They are one in the same "
    that's a hilarious ignorant statement.

    let me guess, you consider obama a socialist too.
    I consider Obama a collectivist. It just so happens that most collectivists lean toward socialism. It is the one economy whereby government gets to meddle in pretty much everything. That is why fascists like Hitler seem to prefer it.
  14. 28 Jan '16 22:25
    Originally posted by whodey
    So long as they cut in enough people on their money scheme all is well with the world.

    It's like the credit crisis. Everyone was making money and happy. People were obtaining homes they could not afford. Mortgage companies were making sale after sale. Those on Wall Street were selling these bad loans into repackaged investments that not even Warren Bu ...[text shortened]...

    And when it bursts society will be in ruins. Better brush up on your Chinese/Russian/Arabic.
    Sheesh, you are awfully confused, aren't you? There is no "bubble," people pay taxes and the taxes pay for Social Security benefits. That's all there is to it, and as long as people remain willing to pay taxes to fund Social Security it will remain.
  15. 28 Jan '16 22:28 / 2 edits
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    Sheesh, you are awfully confused, aren't you? There is no "bubble," people pay taxes and the taxes pay for Social Security benefits. That's all there is to it, and as long as people remain willing to pay taxes to fund Social Security it will remain.
    An $18,000,000,000,000 debt and unfunded $100,000,000,000,000 debt is not a bubble?