Also, are you saying that the recent hardening of language and attitude in European/Western countries towards Islamic ones are the reason for this attack?
No, I said that the reason for that was geopolitics to some degree.
For instance, the destabilization of Syria in the war in Iraq can be seen as acts of Western aggression into the Middle East and thus they helped radicalized and contributed more to the problem.
However, it is also true that islamist ideology itself has to pit itself against the modern West.
In that regard, I don't actually see a big problem. The Middle East has every right to exist as they Wishin to adopt as Auntie Western views as they want. Indeed, I'm very supportive of their autonomy.
@suziannesaid I thought Trump said that ISIS was "defeated"?
What about that?
They have been reduced to such a point that you really can be regarded that way. It doesn't require us to do anything to make it so. Iran, Russia, Syria, Etc can all finish the job.
But I think that everybody understands that Isis isn't the only radical Islamic terrorist group in the world. And when they vanish it means nothing.
I think I even heard some analysis say that Isis is existence was actually useful because it brought many to a single point in the world and had them focused on a single cost for a significant amount of time and does theoretically may have actually diminished some of the pressure that exists elsewhere.
@philokaliasaid Actually it was just a point about terrorism in the point about how Islam tends to motivate extremists attitude.
They feel that they are at war with the Western way of life, end of course some of this is motivated and exacerbated by geopolitical realities.
The real point is that the world isn't this happy, United place where everyone can feel safe everywhere. And the ...[text shortened]... me rates of the United States. There's some relevant analysis there that you might find interesting.
We also can't expect to have continued births and not have people like Ted Bundy, Jeffrey Dahmer and Charles Manson grow up.
@philokaliasaid Right, I would definitely agree that there are issues with Public Safety and violence in the United States. As I said earlier, this place very well into typical conservative talking points.
Fear, Fear, and more Fear.
This is ALL you idiots talk about. Fox News has been proselytizing the Republican Fear Agenda for over two decades now, led by fools like Hannity, Limbaugh and Jones. Spreading your sick ideology of control over the senselessly afraid masses. And now it's all coming home to roost with the election of rich demagogues who will destroy what America once stood for. All while white, racist, poor rednecks stand around (because they're out of a job) cheering them on.
Despite the fact that the world is a significantly safer place, on average, than it has ever been.
This is ALL you idiots talk about. Fox News has been proselytizing the Republican Fear Agenda for over two decades now, led by fools like Hannity, Limbaugh and Jones. Spreading your sick ideology of control over the senselessly afraid masses. And now it's all coming home to roost with the election of rich demagogues who will destroy what Amer ...[text shortened]... spite[/i] the fact that the world is a significantly safer place, on average, than it has ever been.
Says the woman who invokes Charlottesville and Nazis every time anyone brings up a stance critical of immigration.
@wolfgang59said Well this thread started about a double murder in
Morocco, something probably quite common in US
and exceedingly uncommon in Morocco. The murder
rate in US is approx FOUR TIMES HIGHER in US than
Morocco. So I'm not sure what the discussion is about.
They were beheaded in the name of religious beliefs.